I've always found Elves to be far more full of themselves and snooty then Dwarves are.... I also feel that the "Good" Dark Elf / Drow has been played to death.. Not only in games (MMO Role Play) but also at my DnD Table.. Just saying...
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ZaraMember, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I've always found Elves to be far more full of themselves and snooty then Dwarves are.... I also feel that the "Good" Dark Elf / Drow has been played to death.. Not only in games (MMO Role Play) but also at my DnD Table.. Just saying...
That's true, I hate elves almost as much but couldn't find any better meme for this post haha. I think Humans etc. are better than both! But still dwarves are quite annoying
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ViymirMember, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Regardless of mythos the dwarfs, dwarves, dverger, nauglim, et Al. have several common characteristics:
1) Short stature
2) Exceptional crafting and excavation/mining skills
3) Reserved, Gruff, Conservative disposition to non-dwarf races
The reasons for the last vary by mythos but have a common thread. Dwarfs are very protective of their art and tales are many where their homes are raided and works stolen; these stories tend to be epic and thus affect the dwarfs psyche as a whole because it reinforces their view that non-dwarfs cannot be trusted. Thus they come across as Gruff or even outright rude to non-dwarfs with whom they have not formed any form of relationship - in short non-dwarfs are thieves until they prove to the dwarfs otherwise.
Once a relationship of trust is formed the dwarfs tend to be much more open and in some cases even gift their crafted items to their non-dwarf friends.
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ZaraMember, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Regardless of mythos the dwarfs, dwarves, dverger, nauglim, et Al. have several common characteristics:
1) Short stature
2) Exceptional crafting and excavation/mining skills
3) Reserved, Gruff, Conservative disposition to non-dwarf races
The reasons for the last vary by mythos but have a common thread. Dwarfs are very protective of their art and tales are many where their homes are raided and works stolen; these stories tend to be epic and thus affect the dwarfs psyche as a whole because it reinforces their view that non-dwarfs cannot be trusted. Thus they come across as Gruff or even outright rude to non-dwarfs with whom they have not formed any form of relationship - in short non-dwarfs are thieves until they prove to the dwarfs otherwise.
Once a relationship of trust is formed the dwarfs tend to be much more open and in some cases even gift their crafted items to their non-dwarf friends.
Well time to be-friend some dwarves
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NagashMember, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre. That is excluding Sandal Feddic and Varric Tethras from the Dragon Age series. They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone.
What is with this hostility?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
It's funny because the elves in that picture were slaughtered by the dwarfs in the war of the beards
The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
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TolthorMember, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Dwarves have little time for fangling and pomp, like some others, but the more experienced of our kind recognise the importance of civility, after all, tis a small world.
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Wandering MistModerator, Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Dwarves and Elves are both equally annoying in their own special ways.
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ZaraMember, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
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NagashMember, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
AGREED!
The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
AGREED!
Do I hear dissent? Hmmmm, we always need slaves in the sulphur mines you know?
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MorashtakMember, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
AGREED!
Do I hear dissent? Hmmmm, we always need slaves in the sulphur mines you know?
I dont have good memories with furry races *looks at rats*
The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
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LyiatMember, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I'll say one thing. Dwarf music is where it's at. Name one elf song that's half as good as this one.
Elves are so damn arrogant and think they are better than everybody else. Dwarfs often work hard, where elfs just "dance" through life. I think that is why dwarfs dislikes others. Because they work hard. Plus they like their gems and gold
I've come to find that dwarves are some of the most uptight, rude little critters in the fantasy genre.
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
Waaah I'm a Dwarf and I'm better than you, we're rich and live in a cold mountain with no means of survival except to eat each other waaah.
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
They only seem to be nice to you when you're either helping them out or leaving them alone. What is with this hostility?
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
As people who are good with trades and should be interested in gaining continuous clients, they sure seem to be full of themselves to the extent that they drive away customers.
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
Can someone please explain to me why dwarves are so annoying/why you like dwarves?
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
We do actualy
The Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra
The Tulnar is a combination of four different races that were left behind on Verra.
This was previously stated to be three different races.
Tulnar stands for "the forgotten".
Tulnar are not restricted to the Underrealm (there are no factions).
Tulnar eat many things!
The Tulnar society has more of a caste like system, where based on what physical features you show, based on where your ancestry and lineage lie between the races that came together to make the Tulnar, kind of determines your order in that caste system to a degree. So when players get to create their characters and determine whether they are going to have heavy influences of reptilian, mammalian, humanoid; that's going to kind of determine their reception from NPCs as well when they interact with those Tulnar PCs
But saying we don't know anything about them at this stage, is stupid. We don't know much about the game at all. We know a little about the other races. The other races was there from the start, the Tulnar was added after reaching a certain stage doing the kickstarter
Comments
Most dwarves just wanted to go about life drinking and knowing things.
That's true, I hate elves almost as much but couldn't find any better meme for this post haha. I think Humans etc. are better than both! But still dwarves are quite annoying
Dwarfs just have confidence equivalent to the height of a normal human - also they drink, A LOT
You say that like it's somehow "wrong" to drink a lot.
Not at all, beer is awesome
1) Short stature
2) Exceptional crafting and excavation/mining skills
3) Reserved, Gruff, Conservative disposition to non-dwarf races
The reasons for the last vary by mythos but have a common thread. Dwarfs are very protective of their art and tales are many where their homes are raided and works stolen; these stories tend to be epic and thus affect the dwarfs psyche as a whole because it reinforces their view that non-dwarfs cannot be trusted. Thus they come across as Gruff or even outright rude to non-dwarfs with whom they have not formed any form of relationship - in short non-dwarfs are thieves until they prove to the dwarfs otherwise.
Once a relationship of trust is formed the dwarfs tend to be much more open and in some cases even gift their crafted items to their non-dwarf friends.
Well time to be-friend some dwarves
It's funny because the elves in that picture were slaughtered by the dwarfs in the war of the beards
Wait, whaaaaaat? I can accept rude, but UPTIGHT?!? AND YOU SAY THAT AS A HIGHELF?!? :'D (Okay didnt read the comment, where you ssaid that you also dont like elves, but that does not come through in your original post)
I see no problem wih them having money and eating flesh... its better then hugging trees and then EAT THOSE TREES! ITS LIKE THEY EAT THEIR OWN PETS FFS (elves)!
Seriously? After all the times, in fantasy (modern or ancient), where elves literally kidnapped children and switched them with horrendous shapeshifters? After all the times, where elves attacked ANYTHING THAT MOVED OR TRIED TO ENTER THEIR FORRESTS?!?
First of all: No one ever came the idea to get on their knees to talk to dwarfs on one horizontal line. Everyone always looks down on the poor guys. And second: They dont need to FIND customers, dwarves make the god damn best steel in existence, customers come to them and beg for the right to obtaine merchandise.
You are already a lost cause but i will try my best:
Dwarves have gigantuan, magnificent and well groomed beards.
Dwarves split the earth wide open, pull out its guts and make jewelry out of them.
Dwarves know the importance of teamwork in the military, and are most of the time the only ones who will actually try to use tactics like a shieldwall (even though elves will ruin that by JUMPING OVER IT INTO THE ENEMY).
Dwarves have a good standing military.
Dwarves know how to make fire out of your sacred trees and are wont hesitate to set them on fire if you anger them.
Dwarves know how to brew the best beer in the world (even though i hate beer and are more of a schnaps enthusiast).
I hope i could show you the light.
No, I wont play a dwarf in Ashes, I will play a Tulnar, the better subterranean race of both.
Worst of all are the Tulnar, a race we don't even know! So how can we trust them >:^(
AGREED!
Do I hear dissent? Hmmmm, we always need slaves in the sulphur mines you know?
Would you care to go fishing with me... chum?
I dont have good memories with furry races *looks at rats*
https://youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU
You win.
Haha I knew it would be that before even clicking it. Well played good sir.
Their drinking songs are pretty good too
The dwarfs would crush it ^^
We do actualy
The Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra
The Tulnar is a combination of four different races that were left behind on Verra.
This was previously stated to be three different races.
Tulnar stands for "the forgotten".
Tulnar are not restricted to the Underrealm (there are no factions).
Tulnar eat many things!
The Tulnar society has more of a caste like system, where based on what physical features you show, based on where your ancestry and lineage lie between the races that came together to make the Tulnar, kind of determines your order in that caste system to a degree. So when players get to create their characters and determine whether they are going to have heavy influences of reptilian, mammalian, humanoid; that's going to kind of determine their reception from NPCs as well when they interact with those Tulnar PCs
But saying we don't know anything about them at this stage, is stupid. We don't know much about the game at all. We know a little about the other races. The other races was there from the start, the Tulnar was added after reaching a certain stage doing the kickstarter