How many spells do you want?

Simple question. How many spells or abilities do you want access to at a time? Would you prefer it to be like the original Guildwars where you could only have 8 abilities on your bar at a time, or as it is in WoW or FFXIV where some classes have up to 30 abilities they can use in combat?

For me personally, I prefer to have fewer buttons to press since I don't like using a lot of modifier keys when I'm playing. I also prefer to be able to use my abilities in multiple different ways rather than having a separate spell for each occasion. For example, instead of having a separate spell for healing and dealing damage, I like having an ability that, depending on the target, would either heal or deal damage.

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Wololo

Imo the more the better. Even if you dont use some old skills, they might still come in handy for 200 IQ plays. Iam hoping for at least 20. Want plenty of skills to click, play, and show off with.
Having 8/10 skills only like gw1/2 makes me feel like playing a arcade game where everything is pre-set. Also i feel having less skills pushes people into meta builds more. But this is probally because i come from MMOs that have alot of skills on bar (60+)

Damokles

Tons of spells, but a limited number of "equippable" spells.
Like in D&D, where a mage has to write down all his spells he knows and then choose, which he actually can use^^

Wandering Mist

@damokles With regards to equipping spells, do you think you should be able to do this only in towns/cities or anywhere out of combat? I think you should be able to re-equip spells anywhere outside of combat, otherwise players will just stick to the same generalist setups without experimenting or specialising based on what they are doing.

@shkevi You have a good point about meta-building. it was notorious in GW1 especially in the PvP scene. Teamcomps were designed in such a way that most of the abilities on your bar were mandatory and unchangable. The flip-side of this is that limiting players in such a way encourages more teamwork since a single person cannot do everything. If I take lots of damaging abilities I have to rely on my teammates to provide the CC for me to deal the damage. One of the things I loved about GW1 was that not only did I have to think about my own abilities, but the abilities my teammates were bringing, so that we had a balanced teamcomp. It provided an extra dimension of play that you don't really get in other mmorpgs.

cyanideinsanity

I'd like to have around 20-24 or so hotbar abilities, and maybe another few auxiliary abilities. So taking ffxiv's approach but limited to 2 hotbars excluding things like a pet hotbar perhaps, coupled with gw2's aux. F key abilities.

While I really liked the multi-hotbar design in ffxiv I don't like being able to have every single skill active on hotbars.

StreetCornerPoet

I'd rather keep the skill slot low. The more skills you give a class they start either becoming redundant and only the "best at X" skill is ever really used or they become so niche you forget about them. I want skills that are useful in general instead of bogging down my character with revamps of old skills or with niche ones just to have "variety." Its not variety when they aren't used 99% of the time.

Damokles

@wanderingmist
I think that the spells should only be swappable in nodes. Or maybe you could swap between two specs on the fly (with a interruptable casttime) and choose the spells in each of those two inside the node.

burnthefern

For active spells, I'd like to see more than a single bar but not so many that I never 60% of them. I like to have lots of answers in PvP. For the entire catalog of inactive to choose from, the more the merrier.

Ravudha

Around 15 feels nice. If it's 30 with 15 combat and 15 utility that's good too.

Coming from a pen and paper RPG background I can't stand games with only 5-6 abilities on the bar; it feels less RPG and more hack and slash.

Godbrithil

A nice large and especially complex selection of skills should definitely be included, if the game wants to orient itself on oldschool. Games like Guild Wars 2 or other games, which only have 5 skills in the action bars, are extremely unsatisfactory and limit the game and individualization possibilities enormously.
Runes of Magic was a pioneer in complexity, as was Guild Wars 1.

Varkun

Personally, I would like to see 10+ but beyond that, I have no real preference.

What I would like to see is a very large pool of skills and augments to choose from to put on your combat bar, so to give us a good deal of build diversity.

insomnia

damokles wrote: »

Tons of spells, but a limited number of "equippable" spells.
Like in D&D, where a mage has to write down all his spells he knows and then choose, which he actually can use^^

Didn't they also say it would be something like this. You have more than you can equip. But i might remember wrong

Nagash

All of the spells, every. single. one

Azryil

I prefer to have a large toolkit of abilities to work with, I've always hated systems like ESO where you only get a handful of spells at any given time. I think each class should have 10-15 active combat abilities with another 5-10 situational utility abilities such as CC, defensive cooldowns, and support utilities.

noemad

For me ESO and GW2 don't offer enough hotbar space for abilities but games like EQ2 and SWTOR offer too many. Too few abilities and combat gets monotonous. Too many and I find I don't use many of them. Some I don't even remember I have. I prefer a happy medium between the 2 styles. I'd like to see 2 hot bars for abilities with each having 10-12 slots. So one bar would be for combat abilities and the other would be for heals, buffs\debuffs, CCs and utility spells\items (things like food, potions summoning your mount).

I also think we should have a large number of abilities but shouldn't be able to put all of them on a hotbar. Make us pick and choose which abilities we want. That way we can create the character that plays the way we want them to.

Magic Man

Many. And I mean it. I want 70 spells for each archetype and as many augments possible. I don't want what everyone use. I want to be special with my well-thought augmented spells.

Rem_

AS MANY AS POSSIBLE WOOOO

Shoklen

I like a heavy spellbook, but limited to a set number for immediate use.. 4 to 8 seems a little low... 30 to 48 seems a little high.. Personally around 8 to 12 seems good for my play style. Can sit and swap out at anytime (or a place within reason) for flexibility.

Endgame, a class could have 30 to 40 skills/powers, but can 'equip' like, 12.. I'd be down with that.

georgeblack

As long as there are meaningful COOLDOWNS for abilities, depending on the IMPACT of the ability, it shouldnt be an issue of how many.
After all, there are a set number of good Keys, easy to reach.

mozsta69

I think 10-15 slots is a nice balance with heaps more selectable spells/skills at our disposal.

Jjampong

I'm personally hoping for a relatively low amount of spells in favor of comboing or augmenting spells. I think systems like that add a lot more fluidity to combat instead of having 15 different hotkeys to push.

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