Ikcen wrote: » voidshadow wrote: » Idk if i'm understanding the OP point of view but wouldn't this be fixed if exp gained is equal to all parties? As for items gained, make it split between players or parties. In that case the 'gank and steal farming spot' becomes the 'thanks for helping me farm' situation. In terms of boss fights be it overworld or dungeon bosses, correct me if i''m wrong but that is a part of the meaningful pvp so killing other players to steal boss loot for your own party is perfectly acceptable imo.. Someone more knowledgeable can correct me but that is how i understand it https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP It is simply terrible. And believe me, it will be better if the OW PvP is forbidden. At least nobody will troll you to exploit the system.
voidshadow wrote: » Idk if i'm understanding the OP point of view but wouldn't this be fixed if exp gained is equal to all parties? As for items gained, make it split between players or parties. In that case the 'gank and steal farming spot' becomes the 'thanks for helping me farm' situation. In terms of boss fights be it overworld or dungeon bosses, correct me if i''m wrong but that is a part of the meaningful pvp so killing other players to steal boss loot for your own party is perfectly acceptable imo.. Someone more knowledgeable can correct me but that is how i understand it
Ikcen wrote: » You do not "own" the mobs, but you should be able to protect your spot. How will you feel if I come and say piss off noob, this is mine? And with the current corruption system if my class is slightly better in PvE, I can do it, and you have to leave. Is this a good game?
Jahlon wrote: » Now, this entire concept that you "own" the mobs, you don't. The mobs are out there in the free world. The mobs are free game, from the lowliest chicken to the mightiest dragon, every mob is fair game and fair claim
Ikcen wrote: » Well if they do it, they will get the penalty, and they have to die. But yes you got the point. This is a MMO, it is not 1vs1 game. Still If I want to troll you, cause I'm bored, I can exploit the current system. This is simply trolling, as if you PK, you lose. The worse scenario - I come back and PK you as you lost fighting abilities, but also you will lose items. Even worse case - I work with some mates. So you, or even your party is screwed.
Ikcen wrote: » The problem here is you cannot even protect the spot. If you attack and the other player does not retaliate you lose. And in fact you may die multiple times.
Ikcen wrote: » You do not "own" the mobs, but you should be able to protect your spot.
Ikcen wrote: » If I combine the insults and the griefing, then what will you do? They maybe not exactly insults. Just ugly questions. I know how I will react. I will be angry. Also you imagine a pretty empty game. If AOC becomes popular, it will be overcrowded. There will be queue for entering into the game. Maybe even hours. And the competition for every mob will be fearsome. Then what will you do when someone starts to KS? The fact is I have experience with that system, while you do not.
Ikcen wrote: » If I say I did things with you mother - you will be pissed. Or really bad curses about you family. But this is the worst case. The common case is - you play with some slower PvEr, like a tank. Or you are in party with some newbies. So I come with a mage, start to kill literally all mobs. This is a common case. Then what will you do? If I combine the insults and the griefing, then what will you do? They maybe not exactly insults. Just ugly questions. I know how I will react. I will be angry.