noaani wrote: » It isn't the mounts themselves they want to be rare, it is the advantage that being able to fly gives these people that they want to be rare.
Caeryl wrote: » Husbandry masters will be able to make gliding mounts, but we absolutely do not need flying mounts to be common in any way
phdmonster wrote: » TL;DR ... No Because If everyone had a flying mount that they can breed then why even have land mass in the MMO at all? Just make it an airbourn MMO in the sky. The flying mount is meant to be a perk of being a mayor/king - hence an achievement reward for making in to that point, not something that everyone is to utilize. Flying for me basically spits in the face of the environment developers that handcrafted that entire world. Plus, they want traveling to take time, be slow, strategic and your position on the map to matter. If you have a flying mount that kinda ruins their ideas for the game.
Namil wrote: » Giving everyone flying mounts totally defeats the purpose of there being any sort of risk vs reward in carrying materials into the open world, especially the caravan system too. Too many flying players could mean that PvP interactions are hindered aswell, if you've ever compared Retail WoW to Classic WoW then you'll know what I'm talking about. If they gave everyone flying mounts they may aswell go as far as adding fast travel and flight paths across every node.
The Vindicator wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Husbandry masters will be able to make gliding mounts, but we absolutely do not need flying mounts to be common in any way Well, that is certainly your opinion.
Caeryl wrote: » The Vindicator wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Husbandry masters will be able to make gliding mounts, but we absolutely do not need flying mounts to be common in any way Well, that is certainly your opinion. And it lines up with the opinions of the devs, for obvious reasons
The Vindicator wrote: » phdmonster wrote: » TL;DR ... No Because If everyone had a flying mount that they can breed then why even have land mass in the MMO at all? Just make it an airbourn MMO in the sky. The flying mount is meant to be a perk of being a mayor/king - hence an achievement reward for making in to that point, not something that everyone is to utilize. Flying for me basically spits in the face of the environment developers that handcrafted that entire world. Plus, they want traveling to take time, be slow, strategic and your position on the map to matter. If you have a flying mount that kinda ruins their ideas for the game. In this case flying mounts shouldn't even exist at all, since all those mayors and kings would be "missing out" on the handcrafted world, that the devs have made. That being said, do you honestly think that elections wont be rigged in some way, that people wont somehow be able to buy their way into that position, through actual money or some backroom shady business like that? Do these people really "deserve" their reward?
The Vindicator wrote: » As someone who plays both, please clarify what you actually mean by this.
The Vindicator wrote: » Flying mounts can be targetable as well as any other mount, and can be killed thereby forcing the player to dismount, therefore the risk is still present.
The Vindicator wrote: » In this case flying mounts shouldn't even exist at all, since all those mayors and kings would be "missing out" on the handcrafted world, that the devs have made.
phdmonster wrote: » The Vindicator wrote: » phdmonster wrote: » TL;DR ... No Because If everyone had a flying mount that they can breed then why even have land mass in the MMO at all? Just make it an airbourn MMO in the sky. The flying mount is meant to be a perk of being a mayor/king - hence an achievement reward for making in to that point, not something that everyone is to utilize. Flying for me basically spits in the face of the environment developers that handcrafted that entire world. Plus, they want traveling to take time, be slow, strategic and your position on the map to matter. If you have a flying mount that kinda ruins their ideas for the game. In this case flying mounts shouldn't even exist at all, since all those mayors and kings would be "missing out" on the handcrafted world, that the devs have made. That being said, do you honestly think that elections wont be rigged in some way, that people wont somehow be able to buy their way into that position, through actual money or some backroom shady business like that? Do these people really "deserve" their reward? As i said, the flying mount is supposed to be a reward for an achievement, not a common way of transportation. Steven and Jeff have already talked about even these super special mounts having a limited time of flight and then they go on cooldown. They don't want flying to be a common thing, they want it to be something special and rare. If you want everyone to have flying everywhere you have WoW, but i think we can all agree the game has become worse since they added that to it.
Dabbzy wrote: » The Vindicator wrote: » In this case flying mounts shouldn't even exist at all, since all those mayors and kings would be "missing out" on the handcrafted world, that the devs have made. This is far more appealing than adding more flying into the game.
The Vindicator wrote: » phdmonster wrote: » The Vindicator wrote: » phdmonster wrote: » TL;DR ... No Because If everyone had a flying mount that they can breed then why even have land mass in the MMO at all? Just make it an airbourn MMO in the sky. The flying mount is meant to be a perk of being a mayor/king - hence an achievement reward for making in to that point, not something that everyone is to utilize. Flying for me basically spits in the face of the environment developers that handcrafted that entire world. Plus, they want traveling to take time, be slow, strategic and your position on the map to matter. If you have a flying mount that kinda ruins their ideas for the game. In this case flying mounts shouldn't even exist at all, since all those mayors and kings would be "missing out" on the handcrafted world, that the devs have made. That being said, do you honestly think that elections wont be rigged in some way, that people wont somehow be able to buy their way into that position, through actual money or some backroom shady business like that? Do these people really "deserve" their reward? As i said, the flying mount is supposed to be a reward for an achievement, not a common way of transportation. Steven and Jeff have already talked about even these super special mounts having a limited time of flight and then they go on cooldown. They don't want flying to be a common thing, they want it to be something special and rare. If you want everyone to have flying everywhere you have WoW, but i think we can all agree the game has become worse since they added that to it. "They don't want flying to be a common thing, they want it to be something special and rare. If you want everyone to have flying everywhere you have WoW, but i think we can all agree the game has become worse since they added that to it." Well, i can not certainly use YOUR interpretation of what YOU think the devs think or feel, i need their actual words. That being said flying mounts were added back into wow in its 2nd expansion pack The Burning Crusade, which was actually was one of the best if not the best expansions for that game, and flying mounts were a significant feature/addition of that expansion that made it unique. What we can agree on is that WoW has had a some bumps in the road, and has gone downhill to an extent over the course of its lifetime, but I certainly believe (as in my own opinion) that flying mounts were definitely NOT one of causes for that. Ratings for WoW TBC from different raters shows excellent scores:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade#Reception
