New Gambling Feature

As a former blackjack dealer, I would love to be able to deal blackjack inside a tavern to my buzzed costumers.

Tired from swinging your swords and casting your fire balls through the newly discovered dungeon? Come stop by the Tavern and sit at my blackjack table! After a few drinks and money sinks, go back to swinging your swords and casting your fireballs to get your coin back!

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rodzor

Gambling should definitely be in the game, if you've watched any unofficial gambling in WoW (Asmongold Death Rolling) it is very entertaining.

rodzor

rodzor wrote: »

Gambling should definitely be in the game, if you've watched any unofficial gambling in WoW (Asmongold Death Rolling) it is very entertaining.

Either way, with the free market AoC will have we will be able to do it unofficially anyways.

Wandering Mist

Given the current state of affairs within the gaming industry, this is a terrible idea, even if you aren't playing for real world money. As a former blackjack dealer you should know just how addicting gambling can become, and this game is likely going to have a teen rating which means minors are going to be playing it.

rodzor

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Given the current state of affairs within the gaming industry, this is a terrible idea, even if you aren't playing for real world money. As a former blackjack dealer you should know just how addicting gambling can become, and this game is likely going to have a teen rating which means minors are going to be playing it.

Yea it probably won't be worth the media attention to endorse gambling tbh, like I said though people will definitely do it unofficially.

Kybub

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Given the current state of affairs within the gaming industry, this is a terrible idea, even if you aren't playing for real world money. As a former blackjack dealer you should know just how addicting gambling can become, and this game is likely going to have a teen rating which means minors are going to be playing it.

With the games that will be present in the tavern as of right now, it's will be easy to gamble, and people are going to be doing it. So why not blackjack? 💪😃 Ah, people have seen and been through much worse at younger ages. Blackjack on pixels will amount to nothing in regards to a teen audience! I do like your side though! Very cool 😎

Kybub

Kybub wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Given the current state of affairs within the gaming industry, this is a terrible idea, even if you aren't playing for real world money. As a former blackjack dealer you should know just how addicting gambling can become, and this game is likely going to have a teen rating which means minors are going to be playing it.

With the games that will be present in the tavern as of right now, it's will be easy to gamble, and people are going to be doing it. So why not blackjack? 💪😃 Ah, people have seen and been through much worse at younger ages. Blackjack on pixels will amount to nothing in regards to a teen audience! I do like your side though! Very cool 😎

I am just now realizing how weak my rebuttal is. I surrender. Next time go easy on me 😢

rodzor

Kybub wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Given the current state of affairs within the gaming industry, this is a terrible idea, even if you aren't playing for real world money. As a former blackjack dealer you should know just how addicting gambling can become, and this game is likely going to have a teen rating which means minors are going to be playing it.

With the games that will be present in the tavern as of right now, it's will be easy to gamble, and people are going to be doing it. So why not blackjack? 💪😃 Ah, people have seen and been through much worse at younger ages. Blackjack on pixels will amount to nothing in regards to a teen audience! I do like your side though! Very cool 😎

You'd be surprised what the Karen's of this world can get accomplished nowadays lmfao

Niraada

@Kybub explicitly including gambling in a game, versus it being emergent gameplay created by players are two very different things from a legal and marketing perspective, and can directly impact the ability of game creators to operate in certain regions or reach target audiences.

A similar example would be something like hate-speech. Including it in the game through dialogue may affect the rating and marketability, but developers aren't necessarily responsible for players engaging in hate-speech during online play (although that can get into some murky legal waters too, in some cases).

Aeri

Niraada wrote: »

@Kybub explicitly including gambling in a game, versus it being emergent gameplay created by players are two very different things from a legal and marketing perspective, and can directly impact the ability of game creators to operate in certain regions or reach target audiences.

A similar example would be something like hate-speech. Including it in the game through dialogue may affect the rating and marketability, but developers aren't necessarily responsible for players engaging in hate-speech during online play (although that can get into some murky legal waters, too in some cases).

Particularly with some of the new legislation that is starting to emerge in places like the EU. Explicitly including gambling could end up being a bad idea.

Niraada

@Aeri you quoted me and made me realise I put a comma out of place. Now I can't take it back! x.x

PhakzMachine

I would love some sort of twist on a card game that is specific to AoC. It can be a simple card game like a spin-off Blackjack or a more complicated card game. I love the idea of people in the world being known as the "dealers" though.Also, it would be cool to collect unique cards or even just cosmetics for cards the higher rank you got or the more you played. I always enjoyed the game within the game idea just like Gwent in The Witcher.

Aptos

Gambling I think is fine in video games as long as there are limits in place. I think it takes away from what the game is supposed to be and instead of enjoying the game for what it is, many people end up spending all of their time playing a game they could otherwise play on on another platform.

And it isn't exactly a good feeling to work for your progression and your game currency just to see someone with more just because they got lucky on a few games of luck.

But I do believe it can be implemented in a way that works. For example, you win a different currency that can buy you cosmetic items, or something of the sort.

Leiloni

Aeri wrote: »

Niraada wrote: »

@Kybub explicitly including gambling in a game, versus it being emergent gameplay created by players are two very different things from a legal and marketing perspective, and can directly impact the ability of game creators to operate in certain regions or reach target audiences.

A similar example would be something like hate-speech. Including it in the game through dialogue may affect the rating and marketability, but developers aren't necessarily responsible for players engaging in hate-speech during online play (although that can get into some murky legal waters, too in some cases).

Particularly with some of the new legislation that is starting to emerge in places like the EU. Explicitly including gambling could end up being a bad idea.

Yea I could be wrong but I was under the assumption that due to recent rulings in the EU, you can't have gambling of this nature in an MMO if you want to operate in the EU.

Edit: And apparently many countries outside the EU have even stricter gambling restrictions so I'm going to assume such a request is impossible.

Atama

I like the idea of illicit gambling taking place in taverns, with the players running it all themselves. Maybe you just use a /dice command or something to generate a number. Since it’s all informal and voluntary, there is nothing mechanical that prevents a player from refusing to pay, but then that can lead to the player getting attacked (PvP!) or have their name put out as untrustworthy, and then guilds can spread the word that nobody should trade with them or help them.

I think it would be awesome if it goes this way. Then Intrepid can honestly say they don’t support gambling in the game and avoid controversy, and players can still do it under their noses. Having it totally run by players and policed by them makes it feel more immersive and makes the community stronger. Plus, it will be interesting to see what kinds of innovative gambling games players can make up within the limitations of the game’s UI.

Xenotor

As stated allready Gamble has some very strick laws in the EU so they would have to have seperate clients for EU and US.
They wont do that. To mutch work for to lidl gain.

Kybub

Xenotor wrote: »

As stated allready Gamble has some very strick laws in the EU so they would have to have seperate clients for EU and US.
They wont do that. To mutch work for to lidl gain.

They have already talked about card games on one of there interviews in 2018.

Xenotor

Kybub wrote: »

Xenotor wrote: »

As stated allready Gamble has some very strick laws in the EU so they would have to have seperate clients for EU and US.
They wont do that. To mutch work for to lidl gain.

They have already talked about card games on one of there interviews in 2018.

card games doesnt mean gambling.
You Gamble the moment money (Real life or ingame) becomes involved.
Even chess can be turned into a Gamble if you let people bet on the outcome.

The Witcher 3 had Gwen with its gambling mechanic but the game was rated Mature so they could do that.
AoC is trying for a Teen rating i think.( Correct me if im wrong there)
So no Gamble like mechanics in the EU.

They can still implement card games and board games into AoC, they just cant implement an official mechanic that involves Money.

Beekeeper

I'm against including modern games like Blackjack or Poker.

Atama

With Gwent if you lost, you lost a tiny bit of money. There was a limit to how much you could gamble. If you won, you got a new card, and playing the game was an essential way to build your deck(s).

AoC could follow its lead and allow gambling if they limit the stakes to such a small amount that losing doesn’t hurt you. You mostly play for fun and maybe some kind of achievement. I doubt it would be controversial if done that way.

Imagine the most basic starter quest awarded 30 copper pieces to complete and you could gamble 5 copper pieces at the most, such a small amount there was almost nothing a vendor sold that cheap.

Samson1

Aren't you gambling when it comes to pretty much everything you do in life... For example, when you decide to get in your car to drive somewhere with the possibility of crashing/dying, when you pay for a movie in hopes that it will be good, when you try a new food at a restaurant for the first time...

The whole argument about gambling shouldn't be in the game because "people can get addicted" or "people will spend more time gambling than actually playing the game" ...so what? It's a cool aspect to have in a fantasy game like this. Just because some people have poor self control doesn't mean the whole idea needs to be scrapped for everyone else.

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