Make AOC in Unreal Engine 5!

JesusHealYou

Migrate now untill its too late into the project please

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Maezriel

This is already something Intrepid has spoken about. They're aware of the update and I'm sure they'll consider a move if it doesn't significantly hold back the launch.

Talents

They've said multiple times that if it's worth for them to do so then they will. At the current time, they obviously don't deem it as necessary. Just upgrading from Unreal Engine 4.23 to 4.25 a few months back caused weeks of delays because of a ton of bugs that popped up. As much as you think, it's not as simple as simply pressing a button and upgrading.

The game is already almost 4 years into coding development, it didn't just start development when Peon made his video and streamers reacted.

JesusHealYou

Thats why i love this devs acctualy lisening to community

Rayteku

I'm sure they will if it's worth it but as of right now it's not even out yet. Dev preview in early 2021 and full release sometime later I believe is what I read.

I am sure intrepid has Devs who will play with it on their time as well then they can evaluate what it will add and what it will break, as well as what may break and how much work it is to fix it.

They are using heavily modified source code for networking at least. So that alone would need to be imported and fixed as necessary.

With what I know about the features UE5 will bring I would not mind an up to 2 month delay for it if they decided to implement it.

Ravudha

rogonja wrote: »

Migrate now untill its too late into the project please

Why do you want them to upgrade - for a certain feature? (assuming they even could - I thought U5 releases next year)

BobzUrUncle

You want them to re-code a very large amount of programming to an engine that is not even out yet?

Let the engine release and then wait at least 6 months for stability before even thinking of upgrading. And let the actual designers and programmers decide when to upgrade. They know how much work it will be.

This is not a case of "Yay, shiny! We need to toss what we have and start over!".

oophus

UE5 is to fresh. Better to keep a more stabile build and upgrade when UE5 have a longer proven record of being an upgrade, outside just gfx

Atama

oophus wrote: »

UE5 is to fresh. Better to keep a more stabile build and upgrade when UE5 have a longer proven record of being an upgrade, outside just gfx

This. Don’t be an early adopter, do you guys want a bad launch?

Nagash

Yeah swapping between engines in the middle of development seems like a bad idea but I'm no dev so....

Damokles

A MMORPG is not something that really needs such fidelity of depth tbh.
This was designed mainly for single player games, where depth of texture is really important nowadays.

JamesSunderland

Some people seems to think that a game can change from an engine to anothe with the flick of a button...

JesusHealYou

JamesSunderland wrote: »

Some people seems to think that a game can change from an engine to anothe with the flick of a button...

No1 say this but future is coming imagine if Steven somehow manage to implent UE5 and blockchain into ashes?

Noaani

rogonja wrote: »

JamesSunderland wrote: »

Some people seems to think that a game can change from an engine to anothe with the flick of a button...

No1 say this but future is coming imagine if Steven somehow manage to implent UE5 and blockchain into ashes?

Why blockchain?

McShave

rogonja wrote: »

but future is coming

future is indeed coming, I would bet on Ashes getting some sort of crypto in the future (way after release)

Atama

rogonja wrote: »

JamesSunderland wrote: »

Some people seems to think that a game can change from an engine to anothe with the flick of a button...

No1 say this but future is coming imagine if Steven somehow manage to implent UE5 and blockchain into ashes?

And VR! Let's make VR an essential part of the game too!

Can anyone else think of any upcoming untested technologies we can incorporate into Ashes of Creation that will delay release and potentially sink the project altogether as it reaches a Star Citizen level of feature creep and endless development only fueled by scamming customers into buying promises that will never be fulfilled?

This is so much fun!

Nerror

Not only VR, but brain-controlled VR! It has to be as good as keyboard and mouse at the very least before release.

Kesthely

As a developer a new engine is always exciting. But you almost never use the latest engine. All these new shiny functions, take time to learn, optimize, and redo work for. A few examples

1) art work.: There is a Ashes standardise way to create this. This includes size, pixels, color palettes, particle effects etc. When porting this over, every single art piece needs to be rechecked, or worse redone.

2) Coding: new versions use new features, but because of that much coding needs to be different in format and context.

3) Object based coding. Unreal 5 uses object based coding, that means that the scripts are tied to an object. Upgrading, might lose the scripts to said object, and its a gigantic puzzle to reassemble.

Then there is module ports. Each feature of Uneal engine 5 will eventually be stripped down into a module to import into Unreal engine 4. While i can see that "Nanite" and "Lumen" will become an integral part of ashes at some point, that doesn't mean that for "just" those 2 systems you want to udate the entire engine, if you can also just import those as modules.

Nanite itself sounds impressive, and maybe can be used for their 500 vs 500 goal.

Tragnar

You're on point with that list - it is just way too easy to be excited for a new technology, but to make it working requires a tremendous amount of work and I personally think that the upgrade to ue5 would delay the game at least for an additional year

If ashes was still heavily focused on making the networking work then i'd say it would be worth it, but they are much further than that

daveywavey

Atama wrote: »

And VR! Let's make VR an essential part of the game too!

Can anyone else think of any upcoming untested technologies we can incorporate into Ashes of Creation that will delay release and potentially sink the project altogether as it reaches a Star Citizen level of feature creep and endless development only fueled by scamming customers into buying promises that will never be fulfilled?

This is so much fun!

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When you said "upcoming", you meant: "At some point maybe in a possible future of maybes", right?!

ptitoine

JamesSunderland wrote: »

Some people seems to think that a game can change from an engine to anothe with the flick of a button...

I know. In class I was working with Terrain Simulator on Unity. And I just tried to do the same thing on a Unity Upgrade and everything broke. No more texture on the whole work I had done.

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