Reduced Fall damage in water Confirmed. Thoughts?

Now that this has been confirmed to be a feature of ashes, what are your thoughts on this? Good? Bad?

I for one am ok with this, Steven's reasons seem perfectly fine but maybe others feel differently?

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Warth

good, i think it will offer the possibility for some jump/glide into the water, then enter their ship ideas

Jamation

I'm glad water will have some fall damage because imagine belly-flopping off a bridge. It's still going to hurt.

Not to mention it makes it more interesting/challenging to get on ships. can't just climb a mountain and swan dive next to a boat to board it without taking some risk.

Tyranthraxus

Seems reasonable. I'll be zig-zagging my ship through those straights, as to ensure you darn, dirty pirates land in the water and get eaten by giant turtles - instead of getting my bountiful shipment of sugarcane, tobacco and spices!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZxmMM3Y9Y

VmanGman

Sounds great. If landing on ground has a fall damage component, there really is no reason for water to not have a (reduced) fall damage component as well.

Omynn

As others have said, if you fall from a great height it makes sense that there would be some fall damage involved.

Also, I can't begin to tell you how many times I have used water as an escape route because there were no consequences. This will increase the level of thought required to effectively escape sticky situations and so I am a fan.

Asgerr

I really appreciate what Steven said about this being put in place to add possible risk to crews on ships when they get on the crow's nest etc.

I am wondering when fall damage comes in to place in general. As in, after how much falling distance? What would you guys expect as a percentage of reduction? 50% less on water than in land? 30%?

Heruwolf

Asgerr wrote: »

I really appreciate what Steven said about this being put in place to add possible risk to crews on ships when they get on the crow's nest etc.

I am wondering when fall damage comes in to place in general. As in, after how much falling distance? What would you guys expect as a percentage of reduction? 50% less on water than in land? 30%?

Personally, I think that the minimum distance for fall damage taken would be higher, but the linear scaling of damage taken would likely be the same. Meaning, you start taking damage at say, 30 units, for land, but 60 units for water. Not sure how that would work as far as implementation.

Nerror

I like it. I mean, when people jump off tall bridges and such, a lot die from the impact, but how the body is positioned makes a huge difference, so from a realism standpoint it makes sense.

More importantly, I like it from a gameplay standpoint as well. A flat reduced damage percentage would be fine, but the dream would be if we could maneuver while in the air to make a good landing and further reduce it. Adds some skill to it.

Sathrago

What do you guys think about making the character go deeper the further they fall from? Making it harder to get back up to the ship and such. Or would that be too annoying for gameplay?

Heruwolf

Sathrago wrote: »

What do you guys think about making the character go deeper the further they fall from? Making it harder to get back up to the ship and such. Or would that be too annoying for gameplay?

I think that could be a very fair balancing technique for the naval portion of the game. Verging on necessary honestly.

VmanGman

Sathrago wrote: »

What do you guys think about making the character go deeper the further they fall from? Making it harder to get back up to the ship and such. Or would that be too annoying for gameplay?

That would be cool. It seemed to work that way in today's stream video preview.

Omynn

I think it would cool if there were underwater caves that could only be accessed by jumping off a cliff at the right spot...(if depth was tied to jump height)...

Sathrago

Rumbler wrote: »

I think it would cool if there were underwater caves that could only be accessed by jumping off a cliff at the right spot...(if depth was tied to jump height)...

That could lead to some fun "mario tunnel" puzzles XD Jump down one and a geyser shoots you out of another or something like that.

Jamation

I don't know if this will be a thing, but if ramming a ship and causing character movement/stagger is plausible then communication would become even more important between the people above and below to make sure no one fell to their death/overboard

Sathrago

Jamation wrote: »

I don't know if this will be a thing, but if ramming a ship and causing character movement/stagger is plausible then communication would become even more important between the people above and below to make sure no one fell to their death/overboard

Yes this could be really awesome for naval combat, but on the flipside I feel like it would be a nightmare to program for a game expecting to have hundreds of players fighting at the same time.

Vhaeyne

I would like to see the reduced fall damage from water to a point. Like, at a certain height you still take a lot of damage or die.

Ya, know... Like how real life do.

Might be harder to implement than what they have now.

Mowaby

Better than 0 fall damage from water.

Zexo

Personally I believe falling into water should not cause any damage at all. But some fall damage is better than outright dying when jumping into it.

Blandmarrow

Better than no fall damage, it has been a easy way out in so many games.

Warth

Vhaeyne wrote: »

I would like to see the reduced fall damage from water to a point. Like, at a certain height you still take a lot of damage or die.

Ya, know... Like how real life do.

Might be harder to implement than what they have now.

Wouldn't really be that hard to implement, just create a simple mathematical function, that makes the damage reduction from water higher, the lower the fall distance is.

They already track the type of terrain people land on, they already track the fall distance to calculate the damage, which are the only 2 input variables they really need for that.

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