This game looks awful, like gw2

Gw2 was acceptable for a time because it's different. Copying it's style is cringeworthy and this game is dead in the water. I feel very bad for the investors hiring copycat losers.

This is the worst signal the game industry can send to pc gamers.

colors oll over place, no understanding of lighting each outdoor object looks seperate. jumping around like a lunatic buffing and debufffing constantly. no connection with reality etc.

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nousrna

anyone who is a normal pc gamer from way back and not a NuGamer agree?

Wandering Mist

I played GW2 for quite a while and it is nothing like Ashes of Creation is planning to be. Yes the concept of a "living dynamic world" is the same but both games are going about it entirely differently.

The colours and lighting are still first pass and will be improved. I'm not sure what you mean with the rest.

George_Black

I have seen many games I didn't like.
Never once did I make an account to post on their forums.
On your bike, weirdo

Merek

From what they've shown, I would agree. However, I do suggest you word your statement a bit better next time, coming in with a hyper negative attitude will only overshadow your point of view. This is all under the assumption you had genuine criticism and weren't just flaming, though.

Mowaby

nousrna wrote: »

Gw2 was acceptable for a time because it's different. Copying it's style is cringeworthy and this game is dead in the water. I feel very bad for the investors hiring copycat losers.

This is the worst signal the game industry can send to pc gamers.

colors oll over place, no understanding of lighting each outdoor object looks seperate. jumping around like a lunatic buffing and debufffing constantly. no connection with reality etc.

Also comparing a game in pre alpha to a game that has been released for years. I don't think you actually know anything about Ashes of Creation.

nousrna

George Black wrote: »

I have seen many games I didn't like.
Never once did I make an account to post on their forums.
On your bike, weirdo

this users pic is an example. the look is closer to blade and soul type games than more serious fantasy medieval games.

halbarz

MMO's share ideas, it is not possible to be 100% unique so for sure there will be things similar to gw2, just Gw2 has things from t Dark Age of Camelot, etc.
Your original message is very negative, especially since you are comparing a game in pre-alpha vs a live one.

I would suggest doing some research on the development phases and reading up on what the game plans to be or not. It might help you to actually ask a question instead of making a statement

nousrna

halbarz wrote: »

MMO's share ideas, it is not possible to be 100% unique so for sure there will be things similar to gw2, just Gw2 has things from t Dark Age of Camelot, etc.
Your original message is very negative, especially since you are comparing a game in pre-alpha vs a live one.

I would suggest doing some research on the development phases and reading up on what the game plans to be or not. It might help you to actually ask a question instead of making a statement

and you should look at blade&soul type games vs other ones that aren't like that from way back. you are sleepwalking

halbarz

nousrna wrote: »

halbarz wrote: »

MMO's share ideas, it is not possible to be 100% unique so for sure there will be things similar to gw2, just Gw2 has things from t Dark Age of Camelot, etc.
Your original message is very negative, especially since you are comparing a game in pre-alpha vs a live one.

I would suggest doing some research on the development phases and reading up on what the game plans to be or not. It might help you to actually ask a question instead of making a statement

and you should look at blade&soul type games vs other ones that aren't like that from way back. you are sleepwalking

Blade and souls also has features that are found back in every other MMO.

The simple concept of "quests" makes it so that it is not 100% unique

My point is that you should not judge a game until it's in a playable state (Beta/launch)

90+% of what we know about Ashes is based on what we read/heard, the video material is all pre-alpha material.

uao

Wandering Mist wrote: »

The colours and lighting as still first pass and will be improved. I'm not sure what you mean with the rest.

I just wonder for how long everything is still 'first pass'. the game is in development for more than 4 years by now. So lets say stuff needs 3 passes, we get the game released by 2029?

that is if they would start with a second pass right now, but they dont even have all the features through a first pass yet apparently.

Warth

Not sure who i feel more sorry for, this cringeworthy troll or the people who try to engage with him.

xydrassial

Looks great to me /shrug

Vhaeyne

The game could look like ever quest 1 for all I care as long as the systems work as intended.

daveywavey

nousrna wrote: »

Gw2 was acceptable for a time because it's different. Copying it's style is cringeworthy and this game is dead in the water. I feel very bad for the investors hiring copycat losers.

This is the worst signal the game industry can send to pc gamers.

colors oll over place, no understanding of lighting each outdoor object looks seperate. jumping around like a lunatic buffing and debufffing constantly. no connection with reality etc.

Lol. Fair dos. Don't suppose we'll see you around again.

Byeee!

daveywavey

Warth wrote: »

Not sure who i feel more sorry for, this cringeworthy troll or the people who try to engage with him.

I often wonder how many trolls there are, or if it's just the same one who keeps coming back.

Sathrago

Ok OP I'm taking your forum posting keys away you are clearly too drunk to post if you think its proper to compare a completed game like gw2 to a game that is barely in alpha 1.

Dont worry, you will get these back later once you post an apology thread.

P0NCH0

What's with the gw2 hate? It was probably the most fun and social mmo I've ever played. Dungeons where challenging and rewarding before power creep set in. Raids filtered out the decent players from the rest. Jump puzzles are the best when you have a group of friends on discord doing them with you and even better with a mesmer to help out the less skillful with their portals. Raids are the best part of gw2, followed by the fashion wars. Half of what people did was tweak their costumes and socialize.

If AoC can learn anything from gw2 it is that there was plenty of content to cater to big and small groups, and for different skill levels. Sure some of the world bosses/meta events are so easy it is a joke, but a lot of that was because experienced players guide the events to success. But some of the most rewarding times for me was when we barely won some meta content because of low participation and extremely good mastery of the event and your character.

Leiloni

I don't think it looks like GW2 nor do the game systems even resemble GW2 at all and I've played a lot of that game. It's quite a bit of a stretch on both accounts.

Wandering Mist

uao wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

The colours and lighting as still first pass and will be improved. I'm not sure what you mean with the rest.

I just wonder for how long everything is still 'first pass'. the game is in development for more than 4 years by now. So lets say stuff needs 3 passes, we get the game released by 2029? that is if they would start with a second pass right now, but they dont even have all the features through a first pass yet apparently.

Thankfully that's not how it works. Games development isn't linear with set stages that all take the same amount of time. Yes it has taken 4 years to get to this point but there are a few things to keep in mind:

1. When Intrepid first started they had 8 people in staff, whereas now they have close to 100, so the amount of time it takes to get things done is far faster now than it was back in 2017.
2. Games development is like building a house. You can't start just putting bricks together immediately. You need the tools and the cement first. Intrepid have spent a lot of time putting together these tools that will then be used to create the game. This foundation is hard to see from an outside perspective which is why the development may seem slow right now. However, once the tools are in place, the proper building can begin and production will appear to speed up.
3. It's not about "3 passes and then it's done". Instead things like the combat will be constantly iterated upon until the devs are happy with it. So when Steven says there will be a "combat revamp" it's much more about small changes that happen quite frequently over time rather than a single big overhaul.
4. Finally, yes intrepid are being as open as possible but that doesn't mean they are showing us everything. There is a ton of stuff that happens behind the scenes that we never see, so it's hard to get a good idea of how far the project is going from our perspective.

I hope that answers your questions. Of course, if you're still sceptical then that is fine. Steven himself has said it's fine to wait. The game is fully funded up until release so it will get here regardless of whether you support it or not. Just sit back and enjoy the ride

Dreoh

For one, I don't know why OP has such a bias against the amazing game that is GW2

Two, he/she is blatantly ignorant about how game development works and refuses to begin to acknowledge they might be so.

To be honest, and I'm not saying this to belittle them, OP seems like they might be actually a child or teen

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