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Lifetime sub

MarzzoMarzzo Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
edited December 2022 in General Discussion
How long should this be possible in your opinion? My friends were kinda worried about the option simply vanishing at a random time, missing out on the lifetime sub. Would be nice to have some clarification on IS current plans. Like which option is best:

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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I did not know the option was still available to Kickstarter backers. Must be nice to be a patrician... Us plebs don't even have the option.
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  • truelyyytruelyyy Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    you can't buy lifetime sub anymore, that was a kickstarter thing
  • JustVineJustVine Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Lifetime sub is a double edged sword. On the one hand your definitely getting some value here at some point. On the other you lack any real weapon to use in the event of Intrepid making undesirable decisions.
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  • McMackMuckMcMackMuck Member
    @Marzzo
    I understand that Leader of Men is $500 more than you needed to spend to get a lifetime subscription.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leader_of_men
    The extra $500 bought:
    KS exclusive - Demonic/Angelic character racial skin
    KS exclusive - Guildhall appearance
    KS exclusive - Guild themed cloaks and mount barding
    Name an NPC
    +5 closed Beta keys
    +1 epic Monster token
    Invitation to Ashes launch party
    LoM forum badge
    LoM in-game title

    I suspect that you may attribute less value to the itemized benefits now than you did when, possibly hyped, you signed up.

    If it helps give you perspective: you will have several in-game things that are now unobtainable to millions of others. I would love to name an NPC, for example. Heck, I'd write a full character background and personality quirks given the opportunity!

    You may not fully value those benefits at this point in time, but the money is spent and it isn't coming back, so why not look forward to the release party and some awesome times ahead?
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  • JahlonJahlon Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Once the ability to upgrade KS packages goes away, the ability to get your lifetime subscription will also go away.

    Anyone with any tier of a KS package can upgrade at any time.
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  • MarzzoMarzzo Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited December 2021
    Jahlon wrote: »
    Once the ability to upgrade KS packages goes away, the ability to get your lifetime subscription will also go away.

    Anyone with any tier of a KS package can upgrade at any time.

    When do you believe the upgrade ability will go away? I mean, without proper information and warnings about this, a quite large amount of people could be angry.
  • MarzzoMarzzo Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    truely wrote: »
    you can't buy lifetime sub anymore, that was a kickstarter thing

    In the last year, the amount of braver of men kickstarters has trippled. The reason is that every single summer backer, and kickstarter, can freely upgrade to any kickstarter tier right now.
  • MarzzoMarzzo Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    McMackMuck wrote: »
    @Marzzo
    I understand that Leader of Men is $500 more than you needed to spend to get a lifetime subscription.

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leader_of_men
    The extra $500 bought:
    KS exclusive - Demonic/Angelic character racial skin
    KS exclusive - Guildhall appearance
    KS exclusive - Guild themed cloaks and mount barding
    Name an NPC
    +5 closed Beta keys
    +1 epic Monster token
    Invitation to Ashes launch party
    LoM forum badge
    LoM in-game title

    I suspect that you may attribute less value to the itemized benefits now than you did when, possibly hyped, you signed up.

    If it helps give you perspective: you will have several in-game things that are now unobtainable to millions of others. I would love to name an NPC, for example. Heck, I'd write a full character background and personality quirks given the opportunity!

    You may not fully value those benefits at this point in time, but the money is spent and it isn't coming back, so why not look forward to the release party and some awesome times ahead?

    Hey! You are correct, I do believe it devalues the commitment and risk I took back in 2018. Intrepid marketed the whole thing as "this is the last change".

    I remember the final 10 minutes, where i switched my kickstarter package from the basic one just at the last minute. If I had known I could just have waited 5 years, now that I am a lot richer, I would have done so. Nobody told us you could just upgrade to the higher packages whenever you felt like it.

    But that is not the whole problem. If they suddenly remove this ability without proper warning, there will be huge outrage. Because right now there are 3500 bravers of world backers, but there are potentially 20 000 braver of worlds backers, just "waiting" to upgrade to that level.

    I just want some clarification on when they will remove this option. So that people have time to make their decision on how much they want to support the project.
  • unknownsystemerrorunknownsystemerror Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    They have given clarification. "We will give you plenty of notice before we remove the ability to upgrade." There is your answer. You don't have to like it. It is what it is.
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  • darthadendarthaden Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    JustVine wrote: »
    Lifetime sub is a double edged sword. On the one hand your definitely getting some value here at some point. On the other you lack any real weapon to use in the event of Intrepid making undesirable decisions.

    There will be plenty paying $15 a month to keep them honest though
  • JibcutterJibcutter Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Curious if Lifetime Sub shows up in Account Inventory (I have Braver of Worlds but don't see anything in inventory about months of subscription or Lifetime anywhere).
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