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New race designs - thoughts? Likes and Dislikes?

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  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Kaelar master race
  • JustVineJustVine Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Kaelar master race

    What are you hoping for in Kaelar customization template?
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  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Percimes wrote: »
    The Vek look awesome, although they are so different from the Ren'kai (at least from a head shot) that I wonder what makes an orc an orc, from an aesthetic perspective. Veks have strong nose and big ears compared to the Ren'kai, that's in addition of having different skin tones and a smaller size.

    Look at what we've seen of the Vek and the Ren'kai and there are similarities. Steven even pointed some out in the Vek reveal.

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    Here are similarities I see...

    1) High cheekbones and sunken cheeks.

    2) Prominent underbites.

    3) Tusks, particularly from the lower jaw.

    4) Wide and pointy ears (as opposed to the more slender and/or human-like ears of both elf races).

    5) Wide-set, almond-shaped eyes.

    6) Tall, almost elongated and relatively narrow heads.

    That is only going by the faces, as was said we don't know what the Vek body type looks like. That might bring even more similarities.
     
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  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    JustVine wrote: »
    Kaelar master race

    What are you hoping for in Kaelar customization template?

    A hairstyle similar to my avatar.
  • neuroguyneuroguy Member, Alpha Two
    I appreciated how the sub-races looked significantly different. Got me thinking, what exactly is the overlap anyways? What do Nikua and Dunir share for example? Augments? 'racial' quests?
  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member, Alpha Two
    JustVine wrote: »
    daveywavey wrote: »
    I thought they all looked great. Plenty of variation, but nothing too 'out there'. Am looking forward to seeing all the others.

    I assume you missed the 'puppey eyed' as Steven put it, Vek? Some of the Vek models were wild, I loved it.

    I liked that one too. The more variety, the better!
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  • -T0Mb--T0Mb- Member, Alpha Two
    I hope Intrepid doesn't make Vek look like WoW's trolls too much. I like Vek's design but hopefully they will have more fingers and toes than trolls.

    Dünir and Ren'Kai desigs are great but Niküa looks like a toddler to me.

    It will be exciting to see what designs all races will have at the end. Can't wait to see Py'Rai elves. :)
  • tautautautau Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Perhaps number of fingers can be something we set in the character creator? Default to five, minimum two, max eight? Or the min/max could be race dependent, with Tulnar having the greatest flexibility and humans and elves the least.

    What was the name of that guy in 'Princess Bride' who had six fingers?
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Count Rogan?
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  • tautau wrote: »
    What was the name of that guy in 'Princess Bride' who had six fingers?

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  • MoraxisMoraxis Member, Alpha Two
    edited February 2022
    I absolutely love the Nikua Dwarves and the fact that they're not 'traditional'. Honestly, I wish there were options to make them look even less dwarfish and more tiny person-ish. To be clear, I like the current models as a baseline, but I hope people will be able to customize them further in either direction (more dwarfish/less dwarfish) according to individual taste.
  • MoraxisMoraxis Member, Alpha Two
    edited February 2022
    DougBug27 wrote: »
    The Nikua do not need to fit into your little Tolkien box and it's just so unnecessary.

    Halflings may have originated from Tolkien but they have been widely adapted for many other games and storytelling platforms. As much as you think it is important to maintain the traditional dwarven qualities that you like, which are available in the Dunir race, it is also important to recognize that some people may want something different, which is kind of the point of the Nikua, from what I've gathered watching the development updates.
  • JustVineJustVine Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    If you walked away with 'I want a traditional dwarf' from my posts then I did not do a good job explaining or you did not read the whole post. I will assume the former.

    I am glad you like the current iteration and hope it is achievable in some form. I just have some very specific concerns that the current base can't achieve everything I want the Nikua to be capable of being.

    It is more so that I don't think the current baseline has the capacity to reach the concept art nor does it feel like it matched the polynesian-ness of what they said they were going for. You are free to disagree with that.
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  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
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  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Moraxis wrote: »
    DougBug27 wrote: »
    [quote="JustVine;c-327271"The Nikua do not need to fit into your little Tolkien box and it's just so unnecessary.

    Halflings may have originated from Tolkien but they have been widely adapted for many other games and storytelling platforms. As much as you think it is important to maintain the traditional dwarven qualities that you like, which are available in the Dunir race, it is also important to recognize that some people may want something different, which is kind of the point of the Nikua, from what I've gathered watching the development updates.

    How come IS didnt come out and say "and this is our halfling race?"

    Since IS said these are the dwarven races the testers were 100% right to give negative feedback on them. Had IS said "this is our gnome/lalafell/halfling race" then you could invalidate the critisism.

    Sliders are one thing. Race theme is entirely different.

  • MoraxisMoraxis Member, Alpha Two
    JustVine wrote: »
    If you walked away with 'I want a traditional dwarf' from my posts then I did not do a good job explaining or you did not read the whole post. I will assume the former.

    Good of you to assume the former. I always read the whole post. ;)

  • MoraxisMoraxis Member, Alpha Two
    edited February 2022
    Since IS said these are the dwarven races the testers were 100% right to give negative feedback...

    No opinion about the looks of mythological races is certifiably right or wrong. In some traditional stories, dwarves are akin to little winged fairies. If you are so upset that they didn't go full traditional (i.e. Tolkienesque) with the designs, be glad they didn't choose that tradition. :D
  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 2022
    I aint upset at all. Dont even like dwarves for my character.
    I am just telling you, in this video game setting, nobody ever talked about halflings.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited February 2022

    How come IS didnt come out and say "and this is our halfling race?"

    Since IS said these are the dwarven races the testers were 100% right to give negative feedback on them. Had IS said "this is our gnome/lalafell/halfling race" then you could invalidate the critisism.
    What they meant is that they want players to give feedback on what they want so that they can make changes to the design if they have the time.
    When they implemented the first iteration of Dwarves, they weren't thinking, "These are Gnomes, but we will call them Dunir Dwarves."
    The Dwarves in Alpha One look pretty close to Everquest Dwarves - which should not be surprising since a lot of the devs (including the artists) are from SOE/Daybreak. Also pretty close to Pathfinder Dwarves.
    They don't look like Everquest Halflings. (They don't really look like any Halflings or Gnomes)

  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    What does that have to do with me saying the players where right to criticize?
  • AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    If Vek can be goblins, I have no problem with Nikua as halflings.

    And they’re pretty buff for halflings, who are usually chubby and not extremely strong.
     
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  • Vek are a little too much “WoW Trolls with better graphics” and not enough “goblinesque” imo
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