Class Discussion for ShadowLORD

SO this is a post for Class discussion and what you like to see and what you think it will be.

1. So as we know Shadowlord is a Base Rogue Class with a Summoner secondary class, as Such we can figure out a few thing for this said class, do to rogue it will have a very dual wielding weapon with stealth and Speed base class

2. Due to it summoner secondary which allow for control or Summoning of a creature to be use in battle as a dps tank or healer.

3. so with these said Classes Now been described we can some what get a view as to what the class Shadowlord will be based off, So here my question to you all what would you like to see with this class?

For me i hope to see a Class that somewhat base off like Sun Jin-woo form Solo leveling Manhwa, maybe not that overpowered but at least to a degree; Something like you can up to a Set certain amount of Summons in your repertoire that can be summon at a time, witht he ability to level up with you or have to level personally ( lol somewhat like pokemon lol) as well as being able to fight like a rogue, giving you the ability to fight multiple target at one time and as they die they use up mana? or as long as they are out they use mana but a low amount so not to overly hold the class back so that your not held back by mana threshold issues. honestly this is one of the classes that i see great potenial for and hope that the developers don't mess up, So what do you think everyone add on what you like to see for this class or what you think it will be i love to hear it all?!?! The Night is Full of Wonders!

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NoctGamingHD

CROW3 wrote: »

All good, @NoctGamingHD

Another bent on the tank summon (whatever shape) would be to have a series of taunting attacks that could trigger a Point of Weakness - which the rogue could then exploit for a damage multiplier. Wouldn’t have to be a backstab. Maybe a combo effect that synergizes with a particular spec (e.g. bleeding spec or poison spec).

Another possibility could be similar to the GW2 mesmer’s use of clones - allowing the rogue to essentially shadow step between a few copies of themselves to trigger a similar damage multiplier.

Totally forgot about mesmer such a great point God i miss GW2...... Might go back now thank alot lol

Dygz

Well...
First off, let's keep in mind that any class ca use any weapon, so...
A Shadowlord could be wielding a Great Sword, a Scythe, a Bow or a Battle Hammer.
Some weapons willnot work as well as others. I expect blades will work best with Rogue/X.

Shadowlords will primarily be using Rogue Active Skills: Crits, Bleeds, Poisons, Shadow Damage, Stealth...
Then we have to think about what the 4 Summoner augment Schools will be and how those will alter the Active Skills they are attached to.

Shadowlord seems to imply that they will be Summoning Shades and Shadows and things that dwell in the Shadows. I think the Shadowlord Summons probably won't be as powerful as the things a Nightspell Summons.

But, yes, I could see a Backstab proccing a Shadow that "Javelins" just long enough for the Shadowlord to Backstab again. There could be Shades that wrap around the Shadowlord, primarily Poisoning enemies nearby while also granting a bit of "Ultimate Defense". Clawed Shadow Hands could Trap an Enemy while also causing them to Bleed. A Shadow Maw could clamp down on and Bleed an enemy and also Siphon some health.

SirChancelot

NoctGamingHD wrote: »

SO this is a post for Class discussion and what you like to see and what you think it will be.

1. So as we know Shadowlord is a Base Rogue Class with a Summoner secondary class, as Such we can figure out a few thing for this said class, do to rogue it will have a very dual wielding weapon with stealth and Speed base class

2. Due to it summoner secondary which allow for control or Summoning of a creature to be use in battle as a dps tank or healer.

3. so with these said Classes Now been described we can some what get a view as to what the class Shadowlord will be based off, So here my question to you all what would you like to see with this class?

For me i hope to see a Class that somewhat base off like Sun Jin-woo form Solo leveling Manhwa, maybe not that overpowered but at least to a degree; Something like you can up to a Set certain amount of Summons in your repertoire that can be summon at a time, witht he ability to level up with you or have to level personally ( lol somewhat like pokemon lol) as well as being able to fight like a rogue, giving you the ability to fight multiple target at one time and as they die they use up mana? or as long as they are out they use mana but a low amount so not to overly hold the class back so that your not held back by mana threshold issues. honestly this is one of the classes that i see great potenial for and hope that the developers don't mess up, So what do you think everyone add on what you like to see for this class or what you think it will be i love to hear it all?!?! The Night is Full of Wonders!

I also think so leveling is a good aesthetic for shadowlord. But the rogue/summoner should have more of his tricks like location swapping with a minion where the summoner/rogue should have the more of/more powerful minions.

KnightlySleeps

Interesting discussion. I wonder where the line is between "summoner" and "mage augments. I could see things like the mentioned mirror or shadow summon of the player being described as either. Same with summoning knives to attack a target from behind. And since these will be augments, that means they are modifying the skills the rogue already has. We don't even have the basic information of what those base skills will be so that makes it difficult to imagine what the augments will be. But if there is a skill that throws knives, then something like the knives from behind the target sounds like a reasonable augment for either rogue/summoner or rogue/mage.

When I look at the archetypes and think of the descriptions Intrepid has given us of the augment systems, it's hard to know exactly what to expect. But I'm very excited. At this point I have no idea what class I will main because I can imagine versions of many of them that would appeal to me a lot.

Sylvanar

I dunno what spell of a rogue can be augmented in a way that it summons a beast/tank/healer/etc. As a secondary archtype it is not suppose to introduce new spells but augment the existing ones. One augment I can think of is wrt to poison.

Generally, poison applies an effect which lasts for a period of time BUT with summoner augment, the poison can work such that live worms/maggots are summoned on successful application of poison such that the poison effect lasts as long as the summon would be alive. Say default duration is 5 seconds but with this augment it would last as long as the summoned creature is alive. This would give better combo/teamwork possibilities.

A rogue is stealthy, stab happy thief cum assassin. So utility style of summons makes more sense such as hawks for bird eye view, chameleons for information gathering, snakes for poison creating stuff, worms for poison application and for combat purposes something like panther - fast, shadowy, fearsome.

For a different school of summon augment we can have shade summons like Dygz mentioned.

As far as tank/heal summons is concerned I dont see how those are even relevant to ROGUE class. That is more of a summoner playstyle with rogue secondary. I imagine a rogue with a tank/heal summon and it feels ridiculous. A rogue standing in front of a crowd going, "I choose you, Bob."... urgh. I really hope that rogues dont have such generic purpose, unoriginal, run of the mill summons.

Dygz wrote: »

I think the Shadowlord Summons probably won't be as powerful as the things a Nightspell Summons.

Although I dont get why Nightspell would have summons?

Dygz

I meant Shadowmancer.

The Mage augment Schools we know are Elemental and Teleport. We will have to see what the other 2 Mage augment Schools are.
I expect the things a Shadowmancer Summons will be larger and more powerful than the things a Shadowlord Summons.

Dolyem

When I think of this class I imagine a rogue with abilities augmented to summon shadows for anything from dealing extra damage, cc, or even taunts. No idea what the extent of augments will be yet but thats generally what I would think of for this class. Maybe something similar to mirror image where you summon shadows and become similar looking as one so its harder to tell which one you are. Could be a fun concept to mess around with.

Sylvanar

I have read various comments regarding clones. Clones are more closely related to mage class imo.

You don't summon a clone, you make a clone with magic. Why? Summon implies a form of contract or a master/slave relationship between summoner/summon. At least this is my interpretation of the class and don't see how this can be applied in conjunction with clones.

So augments like creating clones, swapping places with a clone and things of this nature would be more inline with Nightspell rather than Shadowlord.

Ludullu

The shadow realm. And you know who might be able to control shadows? A Lord. You might even call him... Shadow Lord.

PenguinPaladin

I mean, if we are talking flavor of whats wanted by those interested in the class. Then share ideas by all means.

But if we're wanting to look at the systems we know of right now. And how they are expected to work. Then we should be talking about what the 4 summoner augments maybe, and how they would effect rouge skills

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