Hot topic - PvP servers without corruption and full loot.

Mag7spy

Thoughts, is this something people might want?

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CROW3

No. I want the PvX game Steven has described for the last 6 years.

Noaani

As a weekend event, sure.

As a full server? Nope.

Mag7spy

Noaani wrote: »

As a weekend event, sure.

As a full server? Nope.

I wouldn't do this as a weekend event tbh, couldn't in good faith have anyone play a hardcore server without them opting in willingly.

Ludullu

F that sheeeeeet

Noaani

Mag7spy wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

As a weekend event, sure.

As a full server? Nope.

I wouldn't do this as a weekend event tbh, couldn't in good faith have anyone play a hardcore server without them opting in willingly.

They would opt in.

On a given weekend, you open up a temporary server with no corruption and full loot. Path of Exile used to do temporary servers with altered rulesets quite often (they over did them, people got bored).

Dolyem

I wouldnt want entire servers like this no. Need that PvX as a whole. But I have suggested making certain areas of open deep water corruptionless.

bloodprophet

Why so many threads looking for special server rulesets?
Leave all servers under the same rules. Just as has been planned since the start.

Dygz

It's kind of a counter-point to the recent PvE-Server topic.

George_Black

Boring. I'd rather play a survival game.

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Ferryman

Mag7spy wrote: »

Thoughts, is this something people might want?

Yeah perhaps. At least it would appeal to certain type of players. Of course even to consider this developers needs to evaluate where sections of the game open full loot rules would affect and how much tweak and design work that would take. Additionally, this would need research that could this kind of audiance be actually interested of AoC.

NishUK

I will always lean toward looking for more open ideas in allowing "evil" players more agency but full loot is an extreme stance because it requires a game to properly work around it, you can't just have a ton of content and graft with such a potential loss.

In Ultima Online full loot was just used to show the gravity and importance of your life but you could easily say this was warranted due to gameplay and content limitations back in day.
We all have to accept that a hella lot of people want to learn and enjoy through respawn, regardless of the potential and difficult thrills you can get from safeguarding your life and current powers.

Mag7spy

Dygz wrote: »

It's kind of a counter-point to the recent PvE-Server topic.

Im mainly bringing it up to see what more hardcore pvpers think and if they support it. Which might get them to think maybe full pvp isn't the best idea if they cant handle something like this.

Even though I'm bringing it up I'm indifferent to it, doesn't really matter to me. I'd play a normal servers just want to see what people say for discussion until we get that live stream for new discussions lol.

Marcet

We could zerg a lvl50 with an army of lvls1, then kill each to see who gets his armor and sword

No but really, this would be more like Rust, this game imo fits perfectly with the PvX.

SirChancelot

I feel the same way about it as I did about PvE servers... I don't care if they are there, I won't be playing on them though.

If enough people want it and enjoy it, then by all means go for it.

Mag7spy

Marcet wrote: »

We could zerg a lvl50 with an army of lvls1, then kill each to see who gets his armor and sword

No but really, this would be more like Rust, this game imo fits perfectly with the PvX.

Equipped gear wouldn't drop just anything in the inventory like old school mmorpgs.

BobTheMagicalFish

Agree with @CROW3 here, keeping it PvX just as we’ve been promised and just as Steven has been describing is best.

No corruption and full loot will require too much to work around for it to be even remotely balanced. If that is possible. Full loot PvP also drives AoC to a survivor game direction, imo. Not a fan.

If they chose to add it, certain areas where you can kill without gaining corruption might be a nice touch, but not really fussed about that. The PvX we have now seems fine as is.

Mag7spy

Arlysal wrote: »

Agree with @CROW3 here, keeping it PvX just as we’ve been promised and just as Steven has been describing is best.

No corruption and full loot will require too much to work around for it to be even remotely balanced. If that is possible. Full loot PvP also drives AoC to a survivor game direction, imo. Not a fan.

If they chose to add it, certain areas where you can kill without gaining corruption might be a nice touch, but not really fussed about that. The PvX we have now seems fine as is.

I think there is a misunderstanding, it still is PvX. There wouldn't be much to work around its just a hardcore pvp server where people can fight to their hearts content without limits and politics being more important, more people pissed off at others, etc. Its fully player driven rather then controlled by the rules of corruption.

PenguinPaladin

Curruption is needed for ashes to function because of the node system......

There are no low level zones. Only nodes. So max levels and noobs are going to be living on the same towns. Low levels cant even do their quests or dungeons if max ranks can be allowed to one shot them in passing just in case they had loot. There is no where thats truly safe in ashes, but the curruption system lets the world function dispite that. Without it nodes cant function properly

Mag7spy

PenguinPaladin wrote: »

Corruption is needed for ashes to function because of the node system......

There are no low level zones. Only nodes. So max levels and noobs are going to be living on the same towns. Low levels cant even do their quests or dungeons if max ranks can be allowed to one shot them in passing just in case they had loot. There is no where thats truly safe in ashes, but the corruption system lets the world function despite that. Without it nodes cant function properly

Other mmos have function like that in the pas the same way, the world just needs to be big enough. All of that bad parts are intended gameplay and why its a hardcore type that will not be for everyone that is for sure.

Also people complaining about not enough pvp should like an idea where its not limited, all people will be looked at as mobs that can drop loot. After a time people will learn to work together though its not easy to fully predict.

Again people wanting more free pvp in ashes if this idea scared them away they should be more happy with current system ideas over wanting to be people to kill people more freely. Makes me think they want to grief rather then you use already current in game systems for pvp and guild dec.

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