Bard Suggestion

I would like to see whistling be part of the bard's repertoire where it can act like a spell of sorts.
I would also like to see bards being able to "throw" music from their instruments like spells that do damage.
It would also be fun if their idle stances also included strumming/thumping on instruments or even scribbling on pages like they are composing a story.

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PenguinPaladin

I want the hunting horn from monster hunter.

Diura

Ooo I like the idea of whistling!

CROW3

If whistling becomes a bard thing, I’m creating ‘Harpo Marx’ as an alt.

T Elf

This is more what I was looking for, It's from The Untamed. https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxifIhTR16gloV4hJqpb0O_PJcNaaYR2KY

Sweatycup

Seriously though.. I would hope to see some different musical instruments with different types of damage. Like slow and hard hitting or fast and more rogue like and anywhere inbetween. If you actually made them make music i fear it'd just be a annoying ruckus. If you added a area effect to the bards in proximity and make their tunes sync and in-tune or follow a certain song together, now that would be cool. So your alliance is blaring one song from your support bards as the other side has it's own. If they are actual instruments, and i am a bard i should feel the cohesion of that story telling. No? If you really wanted to go crazy with the idea you could always have the bards rotations affect the overall cohesion of that musical whole to read whats going on around you.

GrumpyGuy

I'm okay with this.

PenguinPaladin

Sweatycup wrote: »

Seriously though.. I would hope to see some different musical instruments with different types of damage. Like slow and hard hitting or fast and more rogue like and anywhere inbetween.

I read this as base attack oriented. And instruments are not weapons right now. If anything your instruments could be customizable, and be pulled out when performing a skill or emote. But the current weapon list does not show any instruments.

Elwendryll

Make it so you don't have spells but notes. And you need to play them, and specific melodies result in specific effects.

Just joking this would be terrible...

Unless??

More seriously I loved the sound design of bards in Lost Ark, some people hate it, but I thought it was super cool.

CROW3

You could do something similar, but three note combos, basically approach bard skills as a scale.

You could also build those combos such that the outcome of one 3-note combo could be heightened by another 3-note combo do deliver a more devastating attack, or enhance a buff.

The closest analog would be how alchemy is handled in some games where consuming a single ingredient has a tiny effect (herb), combining that ingredient with others has a greater effect (potion), combining that potion with others has a multiplied effect (super pot).

It would definitely make playing a bard feel different than the other archetypes.

PenguinPaladin

Should song craft be an artisian skill tree?

Gathering lore and tunes from the world

Processing the lore into stories

And crafting the sheet music for bards to perform

CROW3

PenguinPaladin wrote: »

Should song craft be an artisian skill tree?

Gathering lore and tunes from the world

Processing the lore into stories

And crafting the sheet music for bards to perform

Ooo that’s cool. If it’s an artisan profession, I think this would become a required META. What if it were a class ability that could export (teach) and import (learn) different combinations for attacks, defenses, and buffs?

Ideally, this would create a function for bards to learn from one another - though it would probably just result in a number of YouTube videos laying out all combinations and what perfect permutation I is ‘the best.’

tautau

Perhaps different types of songs (romantic, sorrowful, brave, dramatic...) would provide differing buffs. Also, the instrument played (flute, banjo, drums, guitar, including voice only) would influence the buffs. Also, the style of music (rock, folk, etc.) could do so as could the dance performed (swing, tango, waltz, rhumba, cha-cha, salsa).

So, we would have:
- Song type Maybe 6 choices
- Instrument Maybe 6 choices
- Style Maybe 6 choices
- Dance Maybe 6 choices
- potentially other variables the musicians among us could suggest

And different choices could impact such things as
- Physical attack speed
- Physical attack strength
- Magic attack speed
- Magic attach strength
- Hit point regen
- Mana regen
- Physical defense
- Magic defense
- Holy attack
- Holy defense
- .....and clearly many other things, up to almost all the character & combat variables

The Bard would have choices on which dances, instruments, styles to learn and not all Bards could provide all buffs, and Bard/learning level would determine the strength of the buffs. Perhaps some choices would have to be made, like you cannot have both holy and demonic buffs.

Bards could be exceptionally interesting characters to play, and each Bard would be different from all the others given the various options each would have to choose.

Edit: And if you had TWO Bards in the group, dancing the tango together while singing and ancient Verran Orc battle song...Powerful Buffs indeed!

Dygz

I think whistling should not be a form of Bard music. (Even though it coul be cool for Table Top).
In an MMORPG, I think a weapon/physical instrument, like pipes or harmonica or didgeridoo, should be required.

(I have Swing class tonight, Bachata and Salsa tomorrow and Cha Cha and Salsa the next day, but - those aren't really appropriate for a Fantasy RPG - may as well add guns and cars and bikes, at that point).

SongRune

I'm all for interesting ways to learn songs, particularly related to exploring the world in some regard. But don't make it significantly harder than it is for other classes to learn their own abilities.

McMackMuck

I'm happy with the OP idea.
I don't want it implemented as "guitar hero" though, that kind of game peaked with 'PaRappa the Rapper' for me.
Standard ability use with CD please.

daveywavey

How are people seeing the instruments being used? As an addition to their sword/dagger/etc, or as a replacement?

CROW3

I’d think in addition.

daveywavey

So, a Bard would have an additional item slot to place an instrument/poetry book/etc?

PenguinPaladin

daveywavey wrote: »

So, a Bard would have an additional item slot to place an instrument/poetry book/etc?

I imagine everyone would have an instrument slot, probably for emote purposes, and the bard incorporates that slot into their skill usage. But who knows.

Dygz

Bard instruments should be weapons - similar to D&D.
Any class can use any weapon.

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