Simple solution to everyone's main world PVP concern

Whenever a "Green" player initiates combat with an npc, they get an honorable combat buff that doesn't allow them to be a target of purple and red players during, and for a few seconds after combat. Red and Purple marked players get no such buff. Problem solved.

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Ludullu

If a group of people wants to mess up that green player's farm, they'll just attack him with their most powerful abilities and bring him down to some low % of hp, at which point the green player might die to the mob.

That group of players would be green themselves before the attack, so the buff wouldn't work against them.

Azherae

Vissox wrote: »

Whenever a "Green" player initiates combat with an npc, they get an honorable combat buff that doesn't allow them to be a target of purple and red players during, and for a few seconds after combat. Red and Purple marked players get no such buff. Problem solved.

This doesn't solve any of my concerns at all.

Vissox

NiKr wrote: »

If a group of people wants to mess up that green player's farm, they'll just attack him with their most powerful abilities and bring him down to some low % of hp, at which point the green player might die to the mob.

That group of players would be green themselves before the attack, so the buff wouldn't work against them.

crazy how you didn't read my post.

Vissox

Azherae wrote: »

Vissox wrote: »

Whenever a "Green" player initiates combat with an npc, they get an honorable combat buff that doesn't allow them to be a target of purple and red players during, and for a few seconds after combat. Red and Purple marked players get no such buff. Problem solved.

This doesn't solve any of my concerns at all.

So are you gonna name them or just be contrarian.

Ludullu

Vissox wrote: »

crazy how you didn't read my post.

Funny how you blame me for doing to your post what you did to mine.

Unless Intrepid goes with the "intention over action" design, the act of attacking someone will flag you only once you've finished your strike. In other words, just as I said in my post, the group of players would be green, they would then make a single attack each which would then flag them as purple. But the attacks themselves would go through because they came from green players and not purple ones.

ClintHardwood

There is no fix to this problem. World PvP is the main driving force of ashes and there are people that won't like it because they can't handle loss or want to turn off their brain while playing. They need to move on. Play a different game. Not allowing people to attack those in combat with mobs is a terrible band-aid fix that doesn't actually fix anything and in fact stifles a vital aspect of gameplay.

How to tell if you'll like AoC:
Go play Albion Online, level a bit, and venture into red and black zones. When you eventually die and lose everything you're carrying, which you will, will you ragequit and write a salty review on steam or try to get better? The answer to that question will be the same for AoC.

Vissox

NiKr wrote: »

Vissox wrote: »

crazy how you didn't read my post.

Funny how you blame me for doing to your post what you did to mine.

Unless Intrepid goes with the "intention over action" design, the act of attacking someone will flag you only once you've finished your strike. In other words, just as I said in my post, the group of players would be green, they would then make a single attack each which would then flag them as purple. But the attacks themselves would go through because they came from green players and not purple ones.

Sorry I didn't list every color of the fucking rainbow just so you would understand, that fucking OBVIOUSLY I ment that such a buff would protect players from combat from players while in the course of pve and healing for a few second afterwards.

Ehrgeiz

The butthurtness because of pvp is delicious. Cant wait to raid enemies nodes.

Vissox

ClintHardwood wrote: »

There is no fix to this problem. World PvP is the main driving force of ashes and there are people that won't like it because they can't handle loss or want to turn off their brain while playing. They need to move on. Not allowing people to attack those in combat with mobs is a terrible band-aid fix that doesn't actually fix anything and in fact stifles a vital aspect of gameplay.

It's bonkers to me that players want to turn their brain off but then advocate for hybrid combat over tab targeting. I think the main issue with this game is noone knows what they want to play. Games like LoL exist, that soley rely on pvp as meat and potatoes and mmo players lose their minds when they hear the concept.

Vissox

Ehrgeiz wrote: »

The butthurtness because of pvp is delicious. Cant wait to raid enemies nodes.

Facts, these kids are free.

Ludullu

Vissox wrote: »

Sorry I didn't list every color of the fucking rainbow just so you would understand, that fucking OBVIOUSLY I ment that such a buff would protect players from combat from players while in the course of pve and healing for a few second afterwards.

You didn't write out your suggestion correctly and then get agro about critiques that address exactly the point that you didn't properly explain in your suggestion. Do better

Vissox

NiKr wrote: »

Vissox wrote: »

Sorry I didn't list every color of the fucking rainbow just so you would understand, that fucking OBVIOUSLY I ment that such a buff would protect players from combat from players while in the course of pve and healing for a few second afterwards.

You didn't write out your suggestion correctly and then get agro about critiques that address exactly the point that you didn't properly explain in your suggestion. Do better

I'd rather weed out the people who think than make my comments easier for the disabled to read.

Scarbeus

*sigh* and this thread goes into the gutter. All that was needed was you to admit that this wasn't specified in the original post then correct it so this thread can continue rather than turning into an argument. But not just that, I'm not going to point fingers but no need to respond like that as I don't want this community to go toxic before it's even out.

Ironhope

Vissox wrote: »

Whenever a "Green" player initiates combat with an npc, they get an honorable combat buff that doesn't allow them to be a target of purple and red players during, and for a few seconds after combat. Red and Purple marked players get no such buff. Problem solved.

No thanks.

It takes out a huge chunk of world pvp to the point of almost removing it.

The world needs to be dangerous and unfair odds are an intrinsic part of combat.
If the game's world does not feel dangerous it feels sterile and this jus won't be a good rpg.

The corruption system as described will be more than enough. Its stats can always be buffed.

Depraved

he wanna fill his bag gathering and run to town hitting mobs xD
or not get ganked while killing mobs
wheres the risk then? why did you remove it? if we remove the risk, we should remove the reward too, its only fair

Scarbeus

Vissox wrote: »

False positivity is equally as toxic. Grow a spine.

You're just making this worse for yourself, this post alone proves you are the exact kind of person I was talking about.

Anyway, where this thread should be going if people can manage to behave. Giving a PvP immunity during PvE encounters could be helpful. Depending on how soon after the mob they kill is defeated they may have time to heal and buff up to level the playing field with people who want to fight them.

BlackBrony

No, life isnt fair, game either.

Liniker

No. Just go play a safe game with no PK that
fixes all your concerns. Enough of all these shit posts with stupid "solutions" for non-issues.

George_Black

Hell no. This isnt open world pvp at all. This is a parallel seperation of players.
Where is the conflict of interests? Where is the danger of failure?
What are you even talking about, unable to be attacked just because you just wanna kill mobs and lvl/gather?
This suggestion isnt at all what AoC is trying to be. Why should they implement this?

Arya_Yeshe

horrible idea

stop giving ideas in that carebearing direction

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