pay to win headstart

i came across a video the other day stating that early backers will either have a 1 or 2 day head start before servers launch? i am fine with intrepid selling monthly cosmetics and anything that doesn't actually affect gameplay but this in my opinion is straight pay to win? i cant find any other information on it is anyone able to confirm this or hopefully i am wrong jaja

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Ludullu

You can only do that on headstart servers and your progress will be limited.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Head_start

Songcaller

You can choose a non headstart server if you are worried.

Voxtrium

I would wager the headstart servers will decrease the day 1 player load significantly enough while also increasing them profits enough that for IS it is more than worth it in the interest of providing the best launch experience to as many people as possible.

Ludullu

Voxtrium wrote: »

I would wager the headstart servers will decrease the day 1 player load significantly enough while also increasing them profits enough that for IS it is more than worth it in the interest of providing the best launch experience to as many people as possible.

Wasn't headstart only available to the early supporters? I doubt that a few thousand people will make a dent in a potentially multimillion playerbase at launch.

Hinotori

Gotta get on that headstart with the crew to beat the queue.

Voxtrium

NiKr wrote: »

Voxtrium wrote: »

I would wager the headstart servers will decrease the day 1 player load significantly enough while also increasing them profits enough that for IS it is more than worth it in the interest of providing the best launch experience to as many people as possible.

Wasn't headstart only available to the early supporters? I doubt that a few thousand people will make a dent in a potentially multimillion playerbase at launch.

I was wrong

ShadonSol

Voxtrium wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

Voxtrium wrote: »

I would wager the headstart servers will decrease the day 1 player load significantly enough while also increasing them profits enough that for IS it is more than worth it in the interest of providing the best launch experience to as many people as possible.

Wasn't headstart only available to the early supporters? I doubt that a few thousand people will make a dent in a potentially multimillion playerbase at launch.

People who purchased the kickstarter package and alpha 1 (I think) get 3 days, the alpha two (2), beta get (1), everyone else standard, we know there are atleast 100k alpha players, maybe half those will use that headstart, gonna end up with way over a 100k by the end of alpha though.

Early access was limited to everyone who purchased the founder pack (or above) during the Kickstarter or summer crowd funding campaign. The current packs in the shop don't grant access to the head start servers anymore. Last we've been told is that the early access starts 1-2 days before launch for everyone eligible.

Jahlon

Voxtrium wrote: »

NiKr wrote: »

Voxtrium wrote: »

I would wager the headstart servers will decrease the day 1 player load significantly enough while also increasing them profits enough that for IS it is more than worth it in the interest of providing the best launch experience to as many people as possible.

Wasn't headstart only available to the early supporters? I doubt that a few thousand people will make a dent in a potentially multimillion playerbase at launch.

People who purchased the kickstarter package and alpha 1 (I think) get 3 days, the alpha two (2), beta get (1), everyone else standard, we know there are atleast 100k alpha players, maybe half those will use that headstart, gonna end up with way over a 100k by the end of alpha though.

The only people who get Headstart are the Kickstarter Backers. No other customers get Headstart.

Before upgrades, there were 3,285 Kickstarter Backers who have 2 day head start, and an additional 4,698 backers who have 1 day head start.

There will be 1 or 2 Head start servers per region (NA/EU/OCE). Having head start doesn't allow you to go to any server, just one of the designated head start servers.

So while it is P2W (its an advantage you paid for) it won't affect the overall game as it will be limited to specific servers.

Voxtrium

Y'all are right, although reading up on headstart servers they did say the node system will be deactivated, so that minimizes the impact of a headstart server past basic resource gathering and farming.

WeGbored

I was kinda sad after realizing I missed out on the head start, but after reading the wiki...

Looks good to me.

Kilion

Chicago wrote: »

i came across a video the other day stating that early backers will either have a 1 or 2 day head start before servers launch? i am fine with intrepid selling monthly cosmetics and anything that doesn't actually affect gameplay but this in my opinion is straight pay to win? i cant find any other information on it is anyone able to confirm this or hopefully i am wrong jaja

At best it can be considered an advantage imo. Sure being able to start 1-2 days before everyone else will make a difference depending on the time one commits during this headstart. But what you can actually do during that time can hardly be considered "winning". You cannot establish a Node beyond Lv 3 (source: Wiki; chapter "Node advancement") according to current information, which means a small group with a headstart can possibly start out with one mayor in place by the time of the "public" start. They can however not maintain that position in any other way as the "late players"; they have no access to unique content that will be unavailable to them and they won't be given anything that within the game system grants them a distinct advantage.

But I get it. I won't be going on a headstart server either, I want to be there when the land is still untouched.

Electronn

Kilion wrote: »

I won't be going on a headstart server either, I want to be there when the land is still untouched.

Same. I suspect the vast majority will want to start on a fresh server that doesn't have HS players. It will be interesting to see if the HS servers manage to thrive after launch, or if they are avoided by new players and suffer from under-population.

Ludullu

mcnasty wrote: »

Same. I suspect the vast majority will want to start on a fresh server that doesn't have HS players. It will be interesting to see if the HS servers manage to thrive after launch, or if they are avoided by new players and suffer from under-population.

I'd bet they'll be the ones that thrive the most, because while some people will avoid them due to "omg I'm like so behind everyone waahhh", a ton of people would not care about that shit and they'd instead just see a less populated server that has either no queues or just small ones. And with that server being populated by people who don't care about the "race" as much - it'll be more successful in just existing and everyone just enjoying themselves on it.

bloodprophet

Long term a day or two will make no difference.
The tiny amount of xp and low level mats will have zero effect after a year.

Taleof2Cities

mcnasty wrote: »

Kilion wrote: »

I won't be going on a headstart server either, I want to be there when the land is still untouched.

Same. I suspect the vast majority will want to start on a fresh server that doesn't have HS players. It will be interesting to see if the HS servers manage to thrive after launch, or if they are avoided by new players and suffer from under-population.

As @bloodprophet said, there won't be any difference after a few days ... other than the overreaction and speculation ahead of launch.

Happens every new MMO.

Veeshan

I wouldnt worry to much about it tbh since they have head start servers so u can avoid those if ur not interested in being behind from the get go.

nodes are so deactivated which seems to be a factor for progression since the mobs level up with node progression to a degree so they might even be level locked to a degree if there no high level mobs due to this however were not sure how much oof an impact mobs levels have around nodes atm.

i guess the biggest thing for headstart would be starting a gold grind to try and secure a house in a node when it levels up early on but again you can just not join a headstart server to avoid that

Veeshan

bloodprophet wrote: »

Long term a day or two will make no difference.
The tiny amount of xp and low level mats will have zero effect after a year.

the only big thing i see is getting headstart on gold to buy a node property cause if u get in early and the node advances up your property gets bigger and bigger howerver it also a bit of a gamble too since ur node might not hot level 5+ for the mansions and things

Taleof2Cities

Veeshan wrote: »

bloodprophet wrote: »

Long term a day or two will make no difference.
The tiny amount of xp and low level mats will have zero effect after a year.

the only big thing i see is getting headstart on gold to buy a node property cause if u get in early and the node advances up your property gets bigger and bigger howerver it also a bit of a gamble too since ur node might not hot level 5+ for the mansions and things

Another overreaction.

Nodes could be destroyed and rise again as frequently as once a month (doesn't always happen, but could happen). Nodes can also suffer from atrophy if mismanaged.

Over time, however, players will have many opportunities to get enough gold to obtain housing.

If getting the "first house" is important to you, that's a great goal.

But, that doesn't lock everyone else out in the future.

unknownsystemerror

Don't forget the confirmed server merge mechanics already proposed. The tears when someone's node is merged into a headstart will be even more delicious.

Xnate13X

Let's not forget that you can catch up on 1 or 2 days head start by just playing double as long as you normally would in 1 day

Yes, you may lose out on cheap materials because it's a ghost town on the auction house, but I'd prefer to startbwith the MASSES because then I know I don't start on a dead af server, praying it fills so I don't have to MTX to swap servers.

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