Tower of Carphin - What do you want to see and expect?

Curious what people will expect to see and what they might want to see as well? Unsure of the level they will start at, I'm guessing it will be 15-30 since they have not shown the full classes that unlock at lvl 35. Which I'm guessing they are doing it to show some more group level gameplay, maybe new class and dungeon mechanics for around that level.

So as the title what kinds of things do you guys think you will see, and want to see in terms of difficulty, mechanics, gear drops, etc.

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George_Black

I expect people to watch youtube videos of Tower of Insolence and Cruma Tower.

Arya_Yeshe

When discussing towers, the first things that come to mind are traps, puzzles, scrolls, chests, gargoyles, and prisoners.

I would be thrilled if certain items could only be crafted in a tower and perhaps certain magical items could only be repaired there as well. It would be fantastic if there was also a workshop in the tower that players could use.

Furthermore, it would be interesting if players could rescue NPCs and have them perform various tasks such as tending to their fields (or else), acting as a shopkeeper, or even becoming a consumable item for summoning a fighting spirit.

Certainly, completing a tower like this should offer a high chance of finding a temporary mount that can only be obtained within the tower.

The possibilities for gameplay in the tower are endless.

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Ludullu

What I expect to see? Literally fuckall. I expect to see the same mobs, with the same non-existent AI, on the same 15 lvls, with the same 4 archetypes and probably same 4 players instead of full 8. I expect to only see a few semi-populated rooms and maaaaybe a boss at the end of a corridor deeper in the dungeon.

What I want to see? All the things I've listed but much better. But as we all know

Mag7spy

NiKr wrote: »

What I expect to see? Literally fuckall. I expect to see the same mobs, with the same non-existent AI, on the same 15 lvls, with the same 4 archetypes and probably same 4 players instead of full 8. I expect to only see a few semi-populated rooms and maaaaybe a boss at the end of a corridor deeper in the dungeon.

What I want to see? All the things I've listed but much better. But as we all know

Well pretty sure we are going to see a boss so you could head cannon the difficulty level of mechanics you would like to see, and maybe theory craft some potential ideas. This show case is a month out so we might be able to provide some good information here ^_^

Mag7spy

I was playing the closed beta for once human, I've noticed a pattern of difficulty being more skewed towards casual players with developers scared to make more difficult games. Elden ring should be an example that difficulty can be fine with players.

I have no issue when they get to the boss if they can't beat it, id rather see it with some good mechanics revolving group play and add management where the chance of being wiped is high. So you can feel rewarded when you finally manage to beat it, as well with random elements so it doesn't feel cookie cutter after the first few times upon beating it.

Ludullu

Mag7spy wrote: »

Well pretty sure we are going to see a boss so you could head cannon the difficulty level of mechanics you would like to see, and maybe theory craft some potential ideas. This show case is a month out so we might be able to provide some good information here ^_^

Nah, anything I come up with will not be in that showcase no matter how far away it is

I'd rather just prepare myself for the worst right now than overhype myself on my own supply of copium and then get disappointed when the showcase is nowhere near what I thought up for myself.

But I agree with George. I pretty much want Cruma or ToI from L2. Both of them are basic as hell, so it's really not a high bar to clear for Intrepid. Just some rooms with some mobs and a boss at the end (with maybe even a mechanic to unlock its room). And if the boss has at least 3 mechanics/abilities - I'll be fine. That's not what I want, but it's smth I'd be fine with seeing.

Here's a video of what I expect. Rooms, mobs, a door that a rogue needs to use an ability on to open, a boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--gCGsBkRHw

Mag7spy

NiKr wrote: »

Mag7spy wrote: »

Well pretty sure we are going to see a boss so you could head cannon the difficulty level of mechanics you would like to see, and maybe theory craft some potential ideas. This show case is a month out so we might be able to provide some good information here ^_^

Nah, anything I come up with will not be in that showcase no matter how far away it is I'd rather just prepare myself for the worst right now than overhype myself on my own supply of copium and then get disappointed when the showcase is nowhere near what I thought up for myself.

But I agree with George. I pretty much want Cruma or ToI from L2. Both of them are basic as hell, so it's really not a high bar to clear for Intrepid. Just some rooms with some mobs and a boss at the end (with maybe even a mechanic to unlock its room). And if the boss has at least 3 mechanics/abilities - I'll be fine. That's not what I want, but it's smth I'd be fine with seeing.

Here's a video of what I expect. Rooms, mobs, a door that a rogue needs to use an ability on to open, a boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--gCGsBkRHw

I will take the copium for both us then because I can handle if there is less than I expect lol. I do hope that it isn't possible to just stealth things, perhaps there are mechanics within he tower you have to do to progress forcing you to fight somewhat.

Like maybe you need to get certain items from mini bosses that spawn through the tower to get to the second floor. Kind of like 3 keys.

Ludullu

Mag7spy wrote: »

I will take the copium for both us then because I can handle if there is less than I expect lol. I do hope that it isn't possible to just stealth things, perhaps there are mechanics within he tower you have to do to progress forcing you to fight somewhat.

Like maybe you need to get certain items from mini bosses that spawn through the tower to get to the second floor. Kind of like 3 keys.

Yep, all of that would be something that I'd like but will not expect to see

Mag7spy

NiKr wrote: »

Mag7spy wrote: »

I will take the copium for both us then because I can handle if there is less than I expect lol. I do hope that it isn't possible to just stealth things, perhaps there are mechanics within he tower you have to do to progress forcing you to fight somewhat.

Like maybe you need to get certain items from mini bosses that spawn through the tower to get to the second floor. Kind of like 3 keys.

Yep, all of that would be something that I'd like but will not expect to see

Im sure not everything will be in it being not in alpha 2 yet. But honestly for this video my pre feedback would be to explain different things that can happen and challenges even if they don't have it all in the showcase.

It will give people an idea on what their goal is and allow people to offer better feedback on what they would want for harder difficulty content.

ie mechanics on dungeons, random elements to dungeons and how they might work, mob variety, dungeon mechanics, boss mechanics, random boss modifiers that will change how an entire encounter might work allowing for more replayability, more floors with harder content be it higher or lower, hidden rooms, alternate paths, etc

Ludullu

Mag7spy wrote: »

Im sure not everything will be in it being not in alpha 2 yet. But honestly for this video my pre feedback would be to explain different things that can happen and challenges even if they don't have it all in the showcase.

It will give people an idea on what their goal is and allow people to offer better feedback on what they would want for harder difficulty content.

ie mechanics on dungeons, random elements to dungeons and how they might work, mob variety, dungeon mechanics, boss mechanics, random boss modifiers that will change how an entire encounter might work allowing for more replayability, more floors with harder content be it higher or lower, hidden rooms, alternate paths, etc

Ok, that's true. And this would probably be my biggest piece of feedback for purely the showcase itself.

Please, shoot the video beforehand, explore as much as you like and show off whatever you want BUT! Instead of doing a live commentary during the recording, just invite a dungeon/AI/mob/etc design dev onto the showcase stream and co-comment the video together.

In other words, literally do director commentary on the muted video (maybe low sfx/music). You can stop the video at any point and go in-depth on your discussion w/o constantly panicking that you aggroed half the damn dungeon while talking about smth. This way you can show off combat and mob design (if there is anything to show), while also explaining any and all design intricacies and future plans you have. And the commentary would be much better, because devs (and Steven) wouldn't be constantly distracted by the gameplay.

That's my feedback and hope for the showcase.

akabear

George_Black wrote: »

I expect people to watch youtube videos of Tower of Insolence and Cruma Tower.

Nothing more to add!

Enigmatic Sage

i expect it to be tall.. like a tower..

Hinotori

I expect Steven to get to the gate and say:

"now this is the tower of carphin and we could go on all day about the dangers lurking inside, and I think we should show you!... But first we have to do the attunement quest!"

*queue 2 hour long stream of Steven tanking more group content and showing off the quest log instead*

Talents

Not really expecting much.

While the Tower of Carphin and Cyclops boss (which we're apparently going to see soon) are needed for the final game for content, neither is really anything special.

The Tower is just a regular dungeon, and the Cyclops is just a world boss, neither is really anything new in regards to systems which is what we need to see. We had dungeons and world bosses both in A1.

I guess hopefully they do the Mage showcase next month too since Carphin and Mages are connected in lore?

Liniker

yea, I wanna see a Mage showcase

Roxi

I think we will be invited to the "Tower of Carphin" museum. it won't be a walkthrough.

Gui10

I would love to see a new class revel but it might be expecting too much.

Other than that, I would love to see more than just walking around and exploring, but actually organized combat gameplay with the full party of 4 classes we got so far.

tautau

I would like to know where the Tower is on the map, due to its impact on the economies of nearby nodes.

Roxi

tautau wrote: »

I would like to know where the Tower is on the map, due to its impact on the economies of nearby nodes.

The Wreckage of Carphin is a zone in the Riverlands biome.
"It was a focus of the mages and study of the Aelan Empire. Carphin was a city that had a great mage population, so it had a university there. And things went bad there in the last days of the fall. They made some desperate measures in a really awesome quest series that Scott's written up." – Jeremy Gess
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AnimusRex

There will some malformed creatures (non mage university staff?) that became Reckless Apprentice Mage Experiments Gone Wrong. Usually is.

I'd like to see a choice point to either kill or (temporarily) recruit some of these.

As you wind upwards with greater difficulty you start to regret your decision not to recruit...

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