Bring back the Crossbows & Potion Launchers

Who else is upset they will not have crossbows & potion launchers ,i my self wanted to be a necromancer with a potion launchers staying back in the fight supporting other players with aoe damage

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Garrtok

Then do it with a rod. This fantasy only existed in your head, because yo thought you can do it.

unknownsystemerror

Priorities and options change during active development. If you were one of the handful of people that had those skins, you received your compensation. I have yet to see a bitch and moan from anyone who actually received an email on it. Read your TOS for the account you have created here.

"You acknowledge and agree that Intrepid may change, modify, “nerf,” delete, remove or otherwise alter the appearance, function, use and/or properties of any Game Assets at any time, in its sole discretion."

Aces_Are_Wild

Their is a different between skins and the mechanics, of what the weapon actually does And just because you didn’t want something in the game don’t mean a lot of people out their didn’t want it, and have the right to be upset that they not following through on promises they made

Liniker

alpha 2 in 2024, launch maybe 2026? I 100% don't want to see anything at all be added to the game before launch

Solvryn

Aces_Are_Wild wrote: »

Who else is upset they will not have crossbows & potion launchers ,i my self wanted to be a necromancer with a potion launchers staying back in the fight supporting other players with aoe damage

Fight for your right to party brother.

I'm always open to new weapons, I just don't like weapons being tied to abilities.

Aces_Are_Wild

Liniker wrote: »

alpha 2 in 2024, launch maybe 2026? I 100% don't want to see anything at all be added to the game before launch

It’s not a add on it’s been taken away

Noaani

Aces_Are_Wild wrote: »

Liniker wrote: »

alpha 2 in 2024, launch maybe 2026? I 100% don't want to see anything at all be added to the game before launch

It’s not a add on it’s been taken away

Yeah, and this is a good thing.

I'd rather have Ashes with no crossbows and potion launchers than no Ashes - or even than a delayed Ashes.

If Intrepid believe that dropping these two item types (for now) will allow the game to be released sooner (even if only a week), then by all means, drop them.

Hinotori

Bye crossbows it was awesome for the whole 10 minutes we had you, /s.

Kilion

In favor of the development progress I can't say I am too sad about potion launchers and crossbows being discontinued until launch. With that being said - I am fairly certain that they will be put into the game in one of the early expansions because Steven probably himself feels not too happy about having to make that decision.
So for progress it's good, for immersion and player expectations it is very dissatisfying but I think this is a temporary situation (even though I understand that temporary could mean many months after launch).

Like another user pointed out, there is lore that at least documents the invention of the crossbow by the dwarfs, so maybe we will see them (re)introduced in an update to increase the depth of the different races.

@Natasha How many of these freaking animations do you have, I've never seen you use the same one twice?!

Hinotori

@Kilion all of them.

Liniker

Aces_Are_Wild wrote: »

It’s not a add on it’s been taken away

... if it's not in the game, they'd need to add it... and did you look at amount of planned weapons? it's more than most released MMOs have, if they remove 5 more weapons there will still be a lot left

I personally I hope they also remove stuff like parlour games, family system, monster token events and other secondary systems and push those to future expansions.

theres already way too much content in the game, scope is big, we need a MVP first, before 2028

Noaani

Yeah, I'd be all good if they just dropped the whole family system - it really isn't needed at all (ignoring the family teleport completely).

Monster tokens and parlor games both seem to me to be better things to add to the game at a later point in time. They seem to me to be things a game would have to keep players interested in the game a bit longer - and as such I would have to assume they would be better at that function if they were new to the game at a point in time where some players were starting to get bored of what the game was offering.

I mean, I do like the idea of monster coin events - playing the game as a monster for a while (even if only 10 minutes) seems to me like it would be fun. But it is the kind of thing I would do when I want to be logged in to the game, but are otherwise bored. It isn't something I would be doing if I could instead be leveling up.

Kilion

Liniker wrote: »

Aces_Are_Wild wrote: »

It’s not a add on it’s been taken away

... if it's not in the game, they'd need to add it... and did you look at amount of planned weapons? it's more than most released MMOs have, if they remove 5 more weapons there will still be a lot left

I personally I hope they also remove stuff like parlour games, family system, monster token events and other secondary systems and push those to future expansions.

theres already way too much content in the game, scope is big, we need a MVP first, before 2028

I get the rejection of the family system and the monster token mechanic as part of the launch scope - even though I might not fully share it. But parlor games seem like a thing of immersion which is important for anyone looking to RP and part of what it takes to make the tavern buildings useful to build. I can't find a similar utility in family membership - it seems to have a lot in common with guilds - or the monster token mechanics, even though I get that they are fun and can add more immersion. But parlor games are a direct support element for a type of building and player activity.

Hinotori

Kilion wrote: »

But parlor games are a direct support element for a type of building and player activity.

I'd agree with this. But I would push the advanced stock exchange timetable before parlour games.

Kilion

Natasha wrote: »

Kilion wrote: »

But parlor games are a direct support element for a type of building and player activity.

I'd agree with this. But I would push the advanced stock exchange timetable before parlour games.

I'm not sure whether or not they even started working actively on the parlour games or stock exchange yet. For the stock exchange they are missing probably a lot of the associated systems like the finished Node system and for the parlour games it would require the freehold system to be basically done. But leaving that aside - why would you want the stock exchange take priority?

Natasha wrote: »

Don't try to spoil me XD

Arya_Yeshe

Liniker wrote: »

alpha 2 in 2024, launch maybe 2026? I 100% don't want to see anything at all be added to the game before launch

I was thinking more like 2030, I worry if Steven will have money until then

If he spends all his money, which investor will put many milions of dollars in a niche game that "is not for everybody"?

Veeshan

we will probaly see crossbows after release

daveywavey

Noaani wrote: »

Yeah, I'd be all good if they just dropped the whole family system - it really isn't needed at all

Terrifying_Truth

in another video there is a balista on top of a wall so the technology is there

Solvryn

I'm for cutting the fluff from Ashes on a permanent level, but weapons aren't really fluff.

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