How about damaging gear in the inventory too upon death?

How about no. We will need different sets of armour for different encounters and unless you get enough resources from one kill to fix several sets of armour then it is a hard no.

FlowGotThe wrote: »

I consider it as an appropriate feature (personal opinion).

I don't understand what's the problem with mule ? If somebody is going to do a middle or long gathering session, I think he will be forced to put gathered items in mule's inventory, since caracter's bag are going to be small.

The gathereables drop upon death, but finished items in the bag will never drop in any circustance, not even if you are corrupted. They could at least suffer damage tough, in my opinion

So your naked mule alt is a Fort Knox of hauling finished items, he will never drop anything and because he is naked you will never have to repair any damaged gear

Neurath wrote: »

How about no. We will need different sets of armour for different encounters and unless you get enough resources from one kill to fix several sets of armour then it is a hard no.

What? You are saying that there is a marginal subculture of people who run around with multiple high tier armor sets in their bags without any concerns for any kind of risk? Also for min-maxing pve farming against others, making sure that the richest hoarder who has more armor sets will always win?

I guess such feature may end up jackpoting a hit on naked mules plus a hit on min-maxers

It will also be tiny material and gold sink against the overly protected player inventory

It's good for the economy

I'm not stating anything of the sort until I see actual raids. It's still a no because of the same issues around loot and repair. Sometimes I feel you just want to fuck the game up with your suggestions.

MrPockets

Neurath wrote: »

I'm not stating anything of the sort until I see actual raids. It's still a no because of the same issues around loot and repair. Sometimes I feel you just want to fuck the game up with your suggestions.

I believe most suggestions of this manner are 100% in good faith. MMO economies needs various money/item sinks to function in a healthy way.

As stated many times from Steven himself, the game is heavily designed around risk vs reward. Assuming having access to multiple gear sets leads to the greatest reward (being able to handle ALL situations a raid throws at you)...in the spirit of risk vs reward, doesn't it seem reasonable that there should be a risk tied to that?

Regardless of this specific suggestion, these types of risk/reward mechanics are at the core design philosophy of the game, so I'm not sure why you'd think someone suggesting similar mechanics is trying to "fuck up the game".

if i know i will die i could unequip my gear and save some money, i would feel i am cheating

Terrifying_Truth wrote: »

if i know i will die i could unequip my gear and save some money, i would feel i am cheating

That's very cheeky of you, mister!

In EVE, we unplug our brain implants if you know we are going to die, so the death report won't make us look bad in front of the entire community!

1st of all, you can't equip or unequip in combat. 2nd of all the inventory couldn't fit a whole second set of armour in reality, you also wouldn't wear your back pack in a fight unless ambushed and as such I believe the inventory is not realistic and therefore does not need a realistic degradation on anything inside. Magic sums up the notion nicely.

Neurath wrote: »

1st of all, you can't equip or unequip in combat. 2nd of all the inventory couldn't fit a whole second set of armour in reality, you also wouldn't wear your back pack in a fight unless ambushed and as such I believe the inventory is not realistic and therefore does not need a realistic degradation on anything inside. Magic sums up the notion nicely.

that still won't stop me for every scenario, there's still mobs and if i have to pass by a bunch of fighty people i can unequip, if i die for any reason i will even get a free teleport to the next spawn, its a win win. If i see myself in trouble i can do that and people will ignore a naked green

now I thought of this, after killing a boss, I could just unequip and fall to my death somewhere and respawn, most likely i will be max level anyway so who cares about xp loss

before i go I''ll just say it is apropriate

Ludullu

This is one of those threads, Arya

So, we must all suffer multiplied resources and repair costs because some people want to walk around naked and obtain the highest amount of experience debt possible?

NiKr wrote: »

This is one of those threads, Arya

Oh, do you think this is? This is for everybody and not my intetion, it's just a valid honest discussion about risk-reward
People gotta think about stuff like this, otherwise there will be many exotic broken circunvents since the inventory has a layer of invulnerability to risks!

If people don't want loot drops, fine... but not even considering damage?
Damage is a good middle ground, it will be hilarious looting stuff for maybe hours, but dying multiple times, then going back to the node and everything is totally damaged LOL

I have been doing some fractals recently in GW2, when people are running low tier Fractal they ignore all the danger, all the damage, they don't even heal... they just spam attack combos and die many times. Since I am playing as medic, I gotta keep reviving people over and over since they don't care about risk.... BECAUSE gw2 has no risks at all

Guild Wars 2 is a "everybody wins game" and that sucks

Ludullu

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

If people don't want loot drops, fine... but not even considering damage?
Damage is a good middle ground, it will be hilarious looting stuff for maybe hours, but dying multiple times, then going back to the node and everything is totally damaged LOL

The only thing that this would lead to is people running with just one set, which might already be the case. I'd prefer a bit higher dmg on what you're wearing rather than dmg on everything you have.

NiKr wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

If people don't want loot drops, fine... but not even considering damage?
Damage is a good middle ground, it will be hilarious looting stuff for maybe hours, but dying multiple times, then going back to the node and everything is totally damaged LOL

The only thing that this would lead to is people running with just one set, which might already be the case. I'd prefer a bit higher dmg on what you're wearing rather than dmg on everything you have.

I was going to suggest the same thing!

The damage against the gear in the inventory could be halved, it doesn't need full damage in the inventory
It's not over punishing and keeps things interesting

Vaknar

I used to play a ton of Tarkov, which (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) had this feature! It certainly fits in Tarkov, as that game is a hardcore, full-loot PvP shooter 🔫😱

But the idea is exactly keeping the gear, but a bit damaged

In Tarkov if people shoot right at the gear, that gear will be damaged, armor etc

Noaani

Vaknar wrote: »

I used to play a ton of Tarkov, which (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) had this feature! It certainly fits in Tarkov, as that game is a hardcore, full-loot PvP shooter 🔫😱

Yeah, and look at the state of that game now.