#corruptioninthecloset - Why a bounty hunter? Do Inquisitor instead

Noaani

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Be honest

@Arya_Yeshe

Small piece of free life advice for you.

Every time you want to say this (or a variation of this) to someone on the forums, the issue isnt that they aren't being honest, the issue is that you have not communicated clearly.

Nemeses

Noaani wrote: »

Solvryn wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Solvryn wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Dude, you circled the wrong part.

The part you wanted to circle was the start of the next quote from Steven.

Spiritual essence tarnishes and it inhibits a players ability to use magic.

It's definitely a spiritual issue,

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore

Full explanation of Essence, how it's like Chi and it gets manipulated to create magic. When a players spiritual essence is corrupted, it inhibits their ability to use magic. (which is the stat dampening)

Right, so, you obviously didn't get it.

In my first post, I specifically said;

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

This was a direct quote from Steven - a quote that is on the wiki, and was even in the picture you so helpfully posted.

Now, if you go to the wiki page you suggested I read as "proof" that corruption is a spiritual thing, and you search for the word "spiritual" (or even just "spirit"), you will likely notice very quickly that there are no hits at all - the word isn't mentioned on the page at all.

So, I find it somewhat intriguing both that you fully believe the above, and also that you would suggest a page on the wiki that literally doesn't even mention the word you are talking about.

You are clearly making shit up here.

Noaani wrote: »

Solvryn wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Solvryn wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Dude, you circled the wrong part.

The part you wanted to circle was the start of the next quote from Steven.

Spiritual essence tarnishes and it inhibits a players ability to use magic.

It's definitely a spiritual issue,

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Lore

Full explanation of Essence, how it's like Chi and it gets manipulated to create magic. When a players spiritual essence is corrupted, it inhibits their ability to use magic. (which is the stat dampening)

Right, so, you obviously didn't get it.

In my first post, I specifically said;

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

This was a direct quote from Steven - a quote that is on the wiki, and was even in the picture you so helpfully posted.

Now, if you go to the wiki page you suggested I read as "proof" that corruption is a spiritual thing, and you search for the word "spiritual" (or even just "spirit"), you will likely notice very quickly that there are no hits at all - the word isn't mentioned on the page at all.

So, I find it somewhat intriguing both that you fully believe the above, and also that you would suggest a page on the wiki that literally doesn't even mention the word you are talking about.

You are clearly making shit up here.

You do get your knickers in a bunch.
Made worse by the fact he is right… which makes you wrong….. again.

Chaos_Legion

Make Holy Inquisition The Divine node thingy. If bounty hunters get money or fame, the Inqusitors get something else. Magic coins, soul shards, corrupt essence, temp NPC guards for siege, party hats etc. Or make them work together, like tracking done by inqusition and execution by HH. Outlaws are the bane of any civilized society. Right?

nanfoodle

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Corruption from magic is not the same as corruption from negative action in PvP. It is confusing but I am also fine with "Bounty Hunter" I would be up for changing the PvP word for Corruption to Hate or Reputation or some other thing that does not make the lore confusing.

Noaani

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Corruption from magic is not the same as corruption from negative action in PvP. It is confusing but I am also fine with "Bounty Hunter" I would be up for changing the PvP word for Corruption to Hate or Reputation or some other thing that does not make the lore confusing.

I'm just talking the source of corruption here. Corruption of Verra itself and player corruption are basically the same thing, and their origin point is the magic of The Ancients

nanfoodle

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Corruption from magic is not the same as corruption from negative action in PvP. It is confusing but I am also fine with "Bounty Hunter" I would be up for changing the PvP word for Corruption to Hate or Reputation or some other thing that does not make the lore confusing.

I'm just talking the source of corruption here. Corruption of Verra itself and player corruption are basically the same thing, and their origin point is the magic of The Ancients

No they dont.

Noaani

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Arya_Yeshe wrote: »

Corruption is a spiritual thing

I got this far in and you are wrong.

Corruption is a representation of The Ancients magic.

It is a magical thing, not a spiritual thing.

Corruption from magic is not the same as corruption from negative action in PvP. It is confusing but I am also fine with "Bounty Hunter" I would be up for changing the PvP word for Corruption to Hate or Reputation or some other thing that does not make the lore confusing.

I'm just talking the source of corruption here. Corruption of Verra itself and player corruption are basically the same thing, and their origin point is the magic of The Ancients

No they dont.

I'm not sure which part of the above you are disagreeing with here.

Since we are talking the games lore, not game systems, it is just an outright fact that player corruption and world corruption are the same thing. Like, that isn't really even up for debate.

We know the origin of corruption is that it is a result of The Ancients magic - also not really up for debate.

The only argument left to make is as to the nature of magic itself in Verra. Those few people clinging to the notion that because there was a single use of the word "spirit" in relation to corruption in Ashes, that must make corruption religious could make the argument that all magic is religious.

Unfortunately for them, since the term "mana" can be synonymous with the word "spirit", Steven saying that "corruption tarnishes the characters spiritual essence" (the only statement at all that anyone has for claiming corruption is religious), could just as easily be read as "corruption lowers your mana" as anything else.

What is absolutely sure though, is that in a game with actual religions, when the term religion has literally never been used in relation to corruption, the notion that corruption is religious in nature is nothing more than people grasping at straws.