Talking lighting

I just thought of this but also at times when Stephen was looking directly at a rock or a cyclops and the sun wasn't shining on it. It just looked like a blob of black that you had to squint at to see any detail. I wish they would change that, although it's possible that's just because I was seeing it on YouTube/stream.

Noaani

Vissox wrote: »

I feel as though 99% of people's reservations about this game could be solved by fixing the lighting.

I don't see how fixing the lighting will have any effect on PvP in the game.

99% of peoples reservations seem to be in relation to PvP. Whether there will be too much, not enough, corruption being too harsh, not harsh enough etc.

Lighting may well fix some comments people have in relation to the games visuals, but then at this stage of game development, the lighting shouldn't be in a finished state anyway.

Noaani wrote: »

Lighting may well fix some comments people have in relation to the games visuals, but then at this stage of game development, the lighting shouldn't be in a finished state anyway.

Lighting is an easy right now fix, PVP isn't. (Not saying I have issues with it) I think it makes more sense to fix objective problems than controversial subjective ones first, don't you?

Noaani

Vissox wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Lighting may well fix some comments people have in relation to the games visuals, but then at this stage of game development, the lighting shouldn't be in a finished state anyway.

Lighting is an easy right now fix, PVP isn't. (Not saying I have issues with it) I think it makes more sense to fix objective problems than controversial subjective ones first, don't you?

What makes the most sense is following proper development practice.

You don't just "do" all of anything. You get the basics of things in to the game, and then you iterate on everything several times.

Can the lighting for the game be improved? Yes, obviously.

Does that mean it should be worked on now until completed? No, it should be iterated in turn with everything else.

Or do you disagree with that?

Would be nice if the spells had more luminance on the toons. The toons look so detached from the environment its jarring. Even the toon footprints don't align properly.

Noaani wrote: »

Or do you disagree with that?

Yeah I do. Do things right the first time, don't half ass things, fix problems as they arise. The lighting is a problem, it needs to be fixed. There's no need to intentionally stage the development process so things look shitty in alpha because it's alpha. That's the stupidest, most bureaucratic thing I have ever heard.

Vissox wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Or do you disagree with that?

Yeah I do. Do things right the first time, don't half ass things, fix problems as they arise. The lighting is a problem, it needs to be fixed. There's no need to intentionally stage the development process so things look shitty in alpha because it's alpha. That's the stupidest, most bureaucratic thing I have ever heard.

That is not how game development works, your comment effectively shows that you don't know how developers make games lol.

Vissox wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Or do you disagree with that?

Yeah I do. Do things right the first time, don't half ass things, fix problems as they arise. The lighting is a problem, it needs to be fixed. There's no need to intentionally stage the development process so things look shitty in alpha because it's alpha. That's the stupidest, most bureaucratic thing I have ever heard.

Do you even know what PBR is?

Liniker

watch the weather and seasons video... intrepid know how to do good lighting, in this last video it was dark and foggy due to clouds, that's NOT an issue its just how weather works

Here is an example, this is in the same video same zone just by changing the weather

and here is an image comparing 2 different showcases, on different weather within the same biome (riverlands)

Bad example. Bad lighting due to clouds and then Bad lighting due to what I can only describe as fog.

Liniker

Neurath wrote: »

Bad example. Bad lighting due to clouds and then Bad lighting due to what I can only describe as fog.

I was going to get a screenshot of the mage preview with the light coming into the ruins. I think that's the best example right now.

Snow is difficult that is just how it is, it isn't just lighting either. How the material / shader interacts with lighting has a big impact as well. As well as if they are doing more tweaks to their textures that are affecting materials, etc. Not being at a polished state there are a lot of other things going on than just throwing a light there and it works.

Noaani wrote: »

I have seen it, That's not an excuse for it to look like s*** the other 50% of the time you see it.

Vissox wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

I have seen it, That's not an excuse for it to look like s*** the other 50% of the time you see it.

Clearly you are just being a toxic troll at this point. You don't care about how development is done you just want to say crap on the forum and attack the game not backed by actual criticism.

There is a reason why they are developers are you are here trying to start some crap for no reason with your inability to have a discussion or come to an understanding of the process.

Mag7spy wrote: »

Clearly you are just being a toxic troll at this point. You don't care about how development is done you just want to say crap on the forum and attack the game not backed by actual criticism.

There is a reason why they are developers are you are here trying to start some crap for no reason with your inability to have a discussion or come to an understanding of the process.

Pointing out a flaw in the visuals=trolling. Ok buddy.

I might not be a game developer, but I do know a thing or two about "how development is done." I spend 6 hours a day mixing audio. That's also a simultaneous process. If my mix sounds shitty, I don't go "oh well it's not done yet so I shouldn't bother fixing this obvious problem" I fix it. Then another thing pops up, and I fix that too. Not to mention that that's just me. By myself. Not a crew of developers. I think the person who doesn't know what the development process is. Is the person sitting here telling me that the lighting in the game doesn't need to be fixed because it looks good for a few frames in a showcase that dynamically changes from that moment. But hey! If you think the lighting is totally done and it doesn't need anything changed about it, that's fine. I can just sum you up as another rose tinted goggle. Andy, who can't handle when other people bring up actual issues that need to be addressed.

Tell me this looks good. I'll wait.