UE5 Fluid Flux 2.0

Speaking of today's post with fishes being added to the ocean in Verra. Imagine having this realistic water while fishing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLmiqJJI5ZQ

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Liniker

I'd prefer imagining the game launching before 2030 with no more scope creep being added

SkylarckTheBotanist

Would be amazing!

Ace1234

Naval battles with those kinds of water physics would be highly immersive and interesting

TheDarkSorcerer

Ace1234 wrote: »

Naval battles with those kinds of water physics would be highly immersive and interesting

I want to know what stormy weather would look like!

Nerror

Liniker wrote: »

I'd prefer imagining the game launching before 2030 with no more scope creep being added

It's not scope creep if Intrepid has intended to keep their engine up to date all along. That's what they've been doing anyway, so I fully expect that to continue as long as they see a benefit.

Songcaller

The waves should have sunk the boat.

Mag7spy

Nerror wrote: »

Liniker wrote: »

I'd prefer imagining the game launching before 2030 with no more scope creep being added

It's not scope creep if Intrepid has intended to keep their engine up to date all along. That's what they've been doing anyway, so I fully expect that to continue as long as they see a benefit.

This isn't really keeping engine up to date, it is just a water solution. Doesn't mean it will work for what they are trying to do though. There is a point where it would be scope creep technically, though not in this case since they need water.

If it saves them time and works for what they want great, though they most likely are working on their own water solution but you never know.

Mag7spy

Also it is very easy to look at the marketplace and pick up a bunch of stuff people make. Some of it isn't as complex as you might think though. People ca take other free stuff and build upon it, etc.

Water looks cool and id mess around with it, but not at a 500$ price point.

Water is pretty fun to work with when you have a good shader and you can tweak to get what you want. I created some water back in college for one of my projects so this is like 9 years ago and i lvoed it at that time, though being UDK is is pretty out of date now.

Vaknar

Very neat video and tech!

akabear

I`d imagine another 5-10 years and this level of detail will become commonplace.

Whilst love to see something like this for oceans and rivers, the level of detail would need to be congruous with all other elements to feel balanced.

For UE5, it does not take much to bloat the file size..

Nerror

I just rewatched this, and I am actually getting some uncanny valley feeling from the ocean and waves crashing on the beach. I haven't really experienced that before with the environment. When it looks more unreal (hehe), it's easy to disregard the fact that it's water in a video game and therefore doesn't resemble reality.

Huge improvement on the flow of the water in the waterfall and rapids though, compared to what I have seen before. I really hope they implement that. Especially if they pick up my idea of a river disappearing into a big hole to the underrealm, to become a river down there.

Liniker

Nerror wrote: »

It's not scope creep if Intrepid has intended to keep their engine up to date all along. That's what they've been doing anyway, so I fully expect that to continue as long as they see a benefit.

This has nothing to do with engine update, this tech was made by independent devs and will be sold in the unreal market place, intrepid already have their own water solution so buying something like this and implementing it is 100% scope creep

Nerror

Liniker wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

It's not scope creep if Intrepid has intended to keep their engine up to date all along. That's what they've been doing anyway, so I fully expect that to continue as long as they see a benefit.

This has nothing to do with engine update, this tech was made by independent devs and will be sold in the unreal market place, intrepid already have their own water solution so buying something like this and implementing it is 100% scope creep

I see, so not made by Epic, but still added to UE5.

It doesn't change much really. This discussion is a semantic argument for sure, but it really comes down to what their stated intent is, even if it's only stated internally. If it's planned to keep updating the engine and adding features that makes things prettier or improves or simplifies development until release, it's by definition not scope creep even if it adds development time compared to not implementing it. Implementing naval content will also add to development time compared to not implementing it. Same thing.

Depraved

Liniker wrote: »

I'd prefer imagining the game launching before 2030 with no more scope creep being added

adding realistic assets isn't scope creep =x

anyways I'm impressed by that water. getting water right in games is really hard

Mag7spy

Nerror wrote: »

Liniker wrote: »

Nerror wrote: »

It's not scope creep if Intrepid has intended to keep their engine up to date all along. That's what they've been doing anyway, so I fully expect that to continue as long as they see a benefit.

This has nothing to do with engine update, this tech was made by independent devs and will be sold in the unreal market place, intrepid already have their own water solution so buying something like this and implementing it is 100% scope creep

I see, so not made by Epic, but still added to UE5.

It doesn't change much really. This discussion is a semantic argument for sure, but it really comes down to what their stated intent is, even if it's only stated internally. If it's planned to keep updating the engine and adding features that makes things prettier or improves or simplifies development until release, it's by definition not scope creep even if it adds development time compared to not implementing it. Implementing naval content will also add to development time compared to not implementing it. Same thing.

IF you are adding a bunch of random things on the EGS because it looks pretty it is scope creep. You have aa dev team you hired with a set goal for the game and should work towards that with your plan in mind. If it is inline with your vision using some store stuff is fine, but they hired dev's for a reason not to buy the work off the store that might not be the best solution for their game. But that is for them to decide.

Also buying store assets is not updating the engine.....and again adding features not originally intended for the game is scope creep and literarily what star citizen does.

Also i wouldn't expect them to be updating the engine every update, you don't put experimental features in your game on the first pass of them. The engine literally warns you against it. You let them work out all the bugs and than more than likely they will update down the road, or not update if the features are not helping the project vrs time it takes to do it.

All new features are experimental you can feel most will be worked on and eventually not be in testing phase but sometimes there is a chance they don't go further with it and it isn't updated anymore. So if it causes issues it will be on your own to fix them.

Depraved

people are confused with what scope creep is =x

Mag7spy

Depraved wrote: »

people are confused with what scope creep is =x

You think they just add the water and its good? That isn't how development works lol.

What are they trying to accomplish with the sea content and features is it going to have. Now all those features need to work with whatever store asset they are throwing in. So if they have custom water that preforms a certain way they need to look into how all elements of the other water is built and how they can get it to work how they want.

So if they have their own water solution in progress they will have to spend time figure out some other water to get that look and the additional features it brings. This extends with anything, but it hard to judge without knowing their pipeline.

For example lets say you saw realistic trees that looked like the best trees you have ever seen. And some market place link, are those trees set up to use their pipeline with the features you want. Lets say most likely not, that means they need to further adjust however those trees are set up and get it to work.

If you are talking about a more complex game with systems that use assets in certain way the is most likely more work they need to do to get it working.

Mag7spy

Having great looking art is one thing, if they are just trying to make something pretty with less functionality ya that is easier. If they have the water set up with ways they will have it interacting with boats, etc a lot more work is going to have to go into it + optimization.

WHIT3ROS3

It's a really nice demo, but I'm guessing that in terms of performance, it wouldn't really be suitable for an online server. That is something that would actually be really interesting to hear from Devs about. What is actually possible in terms of pushing graphical fidelity whilst maintaining performance?

Liniker

Nerror wrote: »

Implementing naval content will also add to development time compared to not implementing it. Same thing.

what you are saying doesn't make any sense, naval content is a core feature of the game... of course it needs to be done and will add development time

this Flux tech is a THIRD PARTY solution that has absolutely nothing to do with Unreal engine, Epic, and adds absolutely nothing besides it looks good, this its just water physics tech made by some random developer that intrepid would need to Pay for, to replace their own tech that they already spent a lot of money and time doing, that's the definition of scope creep

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