Pondering the Practicality of Voice AI

Hey yall. I was watching some HC WoW streams and almost everyone is using the Voice AI addon that vocalizes all the quest and dialogue box text. I think this is a simple (from the user perspective) way to improve the immersion of the game and also great for those who need more accessibility options.

My question for you is about how practical this would be for Intrepid to implement this into their own game (seeing as this game will not be allowing addons). Is it a matter of price? A matter of time? Maybe it would expand the file size of the game too much?

I don't know much about the new AI tools, but it seems like a somewhat simple and easy process where maybe each NPC has a couple parameters, like gender, accent, age, and then as you interact with the NPC the dialogue gets generated into an audio clip for you to listen to. Also, I assume you could license one of these tools from another company to save time and resources in generating your own AI tool.

Let me know your thoughts. Cheers.

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Depraved

ai has existed for almost a century now. plenty of games and non game software has used ai and its copyrighted. what you are saying is probable but extremely unlikely. it is more probable that a meteorite will land on us and kill us.

games already contain ai and other stuff that isnt copyrighted and that doesnt invalidate the copyright of the game or the individual assets

Depraved

also asoftware for business use ai, propiertary oftware..so yeah no.

Noaani

Depraved wrote: »

ai has existed for almost a century now. plenty of games and non game software has used ai and its copyrighted. what you are saying is probable but extremely unlikely. it is more probable that a meteorite will land on us and kill us.

games already contain ai and other stuff that isnt copyrighted and that doesnt invalidate the copyright of the game or the individual assets

You are getting programs, scripts and algorithms confused with large language models, and just lumping them all in together as AI.

TheDarkSorcerer

Depraved wrote: »

McShave wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

It's needed. I can't stand games where NPC's don't talk at all. It's just chat boxes...

so u hated games for the last 40 years?

There is such a thing as new gamers. Also, replaying old games after some of the newer games, you start to see some of the flaws (or things that have been improved since).

ithink he is around my age, not a new gamer xD

but yeah i agree..id say technical and creative limitations more than flaws though.

I'm 33 years old as of next Friday

But I'm not a new gamer. My first MMO was GW1 when I was 15 in 2005, it definitely did not have voice-over on anything. It was not until ESO in 2014 i first experienced voice-over in a game. That said, having voice over (even if it's AI) feels 200% more immersive and makes the world feel much more alive.

Depraved

happy birthday in advance ;3

II_Splash_ll

Noaani wrote: »

The major issue with this right now is from a legal perspective.

As it stands right now, any AI work is inelegable for copyright. This hasn't gone through court as yet, but there is the possiblity that once it does, any work using any AI in it's finished product may be inelegable for copyright in it's entirety.

This is actually a real, plausable scenario that some very large (and litigious) companies including a specific mouse-run entertainment company with themeparks (not willing to name the company, due to it's ligitious nature) are wanting to see become reality, and so I wouldn't go betting against it becoming law in America at some point in the future.

If this did indeed become law, it could mean that any game shipped with AI voice as standard (as opposed to as a mod) could be stripped of any copyright status, essentially making it public domain.

While it's easy to stand by and say that you don't think this would happen, you have to ask yourself what sort of odds you are willing to bet tens of millions of dollars on.

I know it's a bet I wouldn't want to go anywhere near right now, not until it's gone through the court (ideally the Supreme Court).

The liability lays with AI using other peoples copyrighted work, this would not be an issue being used as AI reading quest lines in a game owned by the same company .

Depraved

Noaani wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

ai has existed for almost a century now. plenty of games and non game software has used ai and its copyrighted. what you are saying is probable but extremely unlikely. it is more probable that a meteorite will land on us and kill us.

games already contain ai and other stuff that isnt copyrighted and that doesnt invalidate the copyright of the game or the individual assets

You are getting programs, scripts and algorithms confused with large language models, and just lumping them all in together as AI.

and you dont know the difference between a program, a script an algorithm, an nlp and ai

hint, they are all programs. check mate.

Noaani

SplashGaming wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

The major issue with this right now is from a legal perspective.

As it stands right now, any AI work is inelegable for copyright. This hasn't gone through court as yet, but there is the possiblity that once it does, any work using any AI in it's finished product may be inelegable for copyright in it's entirety.

This is actually a real, plausable scenario that some very large (and litigious) companies including a specific mouse-run entertainment company with themeparks (not willing to name the company, due to it's ligitious nature) are wanting to see become reality, and so I wouldn't go betting against it becoming law in America at some point in the future.

If this did indeed become law, it could mean that any game shipped with AI voice as standard (as opposed to as a mod) could be stripped of any copyright status, essentially making it public domain.

While it's easy to stand by and say that you don't think this would happen, you have to ask yourself what sort of odds you are willing to bet tens of millions of dollars on.

I know it's a bet I wouldn't want to go anywhere near right now, not until it's gone through the court (ideally the Supreme Court).

The liability lays with AI using other peoples copyrighted work, this would not be an issue being used as AI reading quest lines in a game owned by the same company .

No, that is only one issue in relation to the legal situation of AI.

it is a more publicly known issue, but it isn't the only issue.

Noaani

Depraved wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

ai has existed for almost a century now. plenty of games and non game software has used ai and its copyrighted. what you are saying is probable but extremely unlikely. it is more probable that a meteorite will land on us and kill us.

games already contain ai and other stuff that isnt copyrighted and that doesnt invalidate the copyright of the game or the individual assets

You are getting programs, scripts and algorithms confused with large language models, and just lumping them all in together as AI.

and you dont know the difference between a program, a script an algorithm, an nlp and ai

hint, they are all programs. check mate.

Well, technically, a script, algorithm and probably also an NPL would be parts of programs, generally speaking. There are a few situations in which they could be the program in its entirety, but generally they are only a part.

However, none of that pertains to what we are talking about. We are talking about AI generated content, specifically voice over, and the influence several of the most powerful companies in history are trying to have over it.

Vaknar

daveywavey wrote: »

Maybe it's time for a Mega-thread.

This topic has been coming up often recently. I'll try to merge threads as I see them

Vaknar

Here is a message I've posted before on the topic - Currently, AI voice-acting is not something we are working on as we develop the Ashes of Creation Alpha Two phase. However, our team is always looking at new technology that makes sense to implement in Ashes of Creation.

There are a few facets that go into adding something like this into a game that make it more complicated than it would seem. That isn't to say we will never do this, though.

As mentioned earlier, the team is always looking at tech that makes sense to implement, and if or when to implement it

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