a general question for thoughts on how summoner spells might work

Rookk

so ik from what i have read about it that summoenrs spells will be based on their summons which makes me curious as to how that might work so i figure its a good question to shoot into the void so people can spitball ideas if they want like how ill do with to me it sounds like if you summon creatures than you will either get to use THEIR spells as your spells with each one having specific spells they allow YOU to use as they are alive which kinda feels a bit on the more boring side making them less important and more like pets that just exist so you can just be a different type of mage. personally i feel tho based on what i have read about it that it sounds maaaybbeee more like the spells will be cast through them which makes me think that intrepid wants to allow summoners to have a lot more control over their sumomners which makes me wonder if each summon gets its own command list along with spells that exlcusively get cast through it so like you can order your wolf pack to flank while you direct your bear to pull aggro or maybe like the weaker sumons that wont come with powers command with command spells as they arent strong engouh to even come close to being able to resist your orders to do as you say so as consulation, the wolfpack would have a go here, attack this enemy stop attack, and maybe a special dodge ability so nothing special but you know what you get with them while a bear might get a roar which could build aggression but wont do dmg and have a attack, and go here spell. this could also be fun as like level 2 summons like that bear could possibly be that would take 2 slots would get more intersting abilies like its taunt but you would be losing out on orders you could give it with than tier 3 ones that flat out take all 3 slots can simply be commanded to attack a target while ones that take multiple summoners wont even give the summoners any abilites maybe even at all as they wont head the command of beings so much weaker than them and instead will fight as they know how to and dont need inferior beings to pretend to know what to do. honestly that could also help reign in the power of multiple summoner summons as they would basically be like summoning minibosses on your side AT THE COST of several of your groups members also all being dedicated to maintaining it requiring the remaining players to protect them to keep this miniboss out.

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willsummon

As flawed as Age of Conan is, for an MMO, Funcom did a marvelous job on the multi-pet Necromancer class.

The Necromancer in that game used a pet point system like what you suggest to great effect. Even in other ways besides pets. The Necromancer could add more pet points and be weak. Also, the Necromancer could cast a buff for more personal magic power at the cost of pet points. These add pet points and taking pet point for power could be combined to make a powerful glass magic can of a Necromancer.

Grim Dawn's Necromancer pets system is interesting. Pets can be made stronger with upgrades in the skill trees and as pets battle they get stronger.

Also, looking at the more recent WoW Warlock class pet system. One main pet, but the Warlock can be speced to proc any number of temporary pets for use.