Game Rating and how that will work (or not)

wiki
YouTube Interview

I'll be frank. I don't think AoC can manage to be a T rated game. I don't see this game being rated mature because of any content that might be added to it.

Being M rated because of an adult community? Yes. I don't foresee them allowing full on nudity, drugs, excessive gore, blood, and swearing.

I don't believe there are many MMOs that have enough adult content to warrant their rating.

However, adults as a player base is a different story.

What do you think? Do you want certain mature features in the game? Do you want certain things to not be left out?
Should it be toggle-able?

Will brothels be a thing in Verra? I am asking for a friend.

Find more posts tagged with

Comments

Enigmatic Sage

https://www.esrb.org/ratings-guide/

I imagine nothing higher than a T rating considering the design of the game. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was E 10+. Game does feel like it's designed between E10+ and T. At least in the country I live in anyways.

tautau

I suspect that, based on the maturity of most of the posters on this forum, that the preference would be that players are mature, certainly not 12-year-olds. I doubt that the game would appeal to them, the game will have a complex economy, difficult to understand systems, and certainly a lot more going on than many games.

None of this really applies to the rating, of course, but I don't think AoC is aiming for a young-teen player base.

Enigmatic Sage

tautau wrote: »

I suspect that, based on the maturity of most of the posters on this forum, that the preference would be that players are mature, certainly not 12-year-olds. I doubt that the game would appeal to them, the game will have a complex economy, difficult to understand systems, and certainly a lot more going on than many games.

None of this really applies to the rating, of course, but I don't think AoC is aiming for a young-teen player base.

It's based on the design of the game, not the age of people playing it. Lot's of adults that play Fortnite and it's not rated M... lol. The economy isn't going to overwhelm teenagers. Make currency and buy things with that currency.

Let's see..

Do the bodies of players turn to ash or corpses? piles of ash but i suppose we might see some corpses of fantasy beings.
Is there blood and gore? nope. especially when it comes to combat. Minor things in cosmetics and "carphin" but that's about all we've seen.
is there strong offensive language in the games design? nope
Definitely not intense violence.
Sexual content? most armour sets cover up everything considered "sexual",
can we expect sexual innuendo? probably not.

Offensive language in chat? sounds like a parental filter feature can handle that.

The games design thresholds literally check the T Rating currently with some touching the E Rating.

Hinotori

In my country it will likely get a mature flag, because of substance use and gambling mechanisms.

Our ratings seem to be the reverse of the USA where theirs are all about sexual content being the main rating focus.

Enigmatic Sage

@Natasha I'm guessing you around the EU?
also... what gambling? Tavern parlor games?

I know they not doing loot boxes and what not afaik

but i guess it would be the PEGI system if EU?

https://pegi.info/what-do-the-labels-mean

Enigmatic Sage

Learned something new today.

Mionikoi

So, establishing what the rating system is and what AoC will likely be, what do you all want?

Raven016

Mionikoi wrote: »

So, establishing what the rating system is and what AoC will likely be, what do you all want?

Ugly NPCs and nice baby zombies which run fast and grab you where it hurts.

Mionikoi

Raven016 wrote: »

Mionikoi wrote: »

So, establishing what the rating system is and what AoC will likely be, what do you all want?

Ugly NPCs and nice baby zombies which run fast and grab you where it hurts.

Yeah, but I don't think AoC is blocky enough for that.

Raven016

Steven was very concerned that killing the pig might be too brutal and asked if maybe it should be put to sleep.
If they end up doing so, then I want ugly NPCs and clean zombies.

Enigmatic Sage

Raven016 wrote: »

Steven was very concerned that killing the pig might be too brutal and asked if maybe it should be put to sleep.
If they end up doing so, then I want ugly NPCs and clean zombies.

brutal? literally no blood spray or wound, the pig just made a noise. It's not like we get to rip and tear through its organs lol. There was a little darkened skin blotch around the neck but that's about it.

Tyranthraxus

It'll probably get the "teen" rating, given the violence. The subject of brothels came up in a Q&A in the Freeholds update when addressing "Inns", and the most it can be is an RP brothel - not a game-supported one.

Ratings shouldn't really depend on the possibility of lewd language and chat-subject content of an in-game chat. The now-defunct Free Realms was a kids' game - but that didn't mean that there was no possibility of adult-themed chat.

Raven016

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

Steven was very concerned that killing the pig might be too brutal and asked if maybe it should be put to sleep.
If they end up doing so, then I want ugly NPCs and clean zombies.

brutal? literally no blood spray or wound, the pig just made a noise. It's not like we get to rip and tear through its organs lol. There was a little darkened skin blotch around the neck but that's about it.

When we catch fish, can we do like Gollum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqs2sd62ZQI

Enigmatic Sage

Raven016 wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

Steven was very concerned that killing the pig might be too brutal and asked if maybe it should be put to sleep.
If they end up doing so, then I want ugly NPCs and clean zombies.

brutal? literally no blood spray or wound, the pig just made a noise. It's not like we get to rip and tear through its organs lol. There was a little darkened skin blotch around the neck but that's about it.

When we catch fish, can we do like Gollum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqs2sd62ZQI

Interestingly enough, outside of the ESRB standardisation for electronics/video games, the country I reside in is much more liberal compared to US for Television and Movie content ratings. I remember growing up and movies were Rated R in the US but were rated lower here such as Rated 18+ and 14+.

The US always had things rated more severely in comparison. Things may have changed over the decades though.

Tyranthraxus

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

The US always had things rated more severely in comparison. Things may have changed over the decades though.

Aye, the US here is a bit backwards, compared to places like Europe and Canada. In those places, sexual content is introduced at much younger ages and is the more socially-acceptable content; A British kid will likely see his first love-making scene in a movie before his first on-screen shoot-out. In the states? We're exactly the opposite. Our kids' *cartoons* often have blood and violence.

Enigmatic Sage

Tyranthraxus wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

The US always had things rated more severely in comparison. Things may have changed over the decades though.

Aye, the US here is a bit backwards, compared to places like Europe and Canada. In those places, sexual content is introduced at much younger ages and is the more socially-acceptable content; A British kid will likely see his first love-making scene in a movie before his first on-screen shoot-out. In the states? We're exactly the opposite. Our kids' *cartoons* often have blood and violence.

Quite true. I think even 4 kids does a lot of censoring especially for anime to this date.

Mionikoi

Personally, I am okay with blood and gore. I would rather language be more inventive with their slurrs and insults. But my answer to Steven's question is... Let me rip it's head off and wear it as a hat while holding a beating heart kept going through magical electricity.

That kind of brutality doesn't bother me. I'm going to assume that AoC will be like ESO where there will be no children NPCs.

Hinotori

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Learned something new today.

Australia. But yeah, the tavern game gambling and the alcohol use will probably bump it up to an MA 15+ for us.

But with that you'd get away with a fair amount of gore, violence as well as sex scenes if they're not overly explicit.

Which is inverse to the united states which is much more puritan when it comes to nudity in videogames.

Enigmatic Sage

Natasha wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

Learned something new today.

Australia. But yeah, the tavern game gambling and the alcohol use will probably bump it up to an MA 15+ for us.

But with that you'd get away with a fair amount of gore, violence as well as sex scenes if they're not overly explicit.

Which is inverse to the united states which is much more puritan when it comes to nudity in videogames.

That's fair I suppose

I don't know really how the gambling will work in the parlor games. Obviously in-game currency and probably capped for betting so gold sellers and players don't break the economy as easily. I will say though, there is plans for mobile access via apps. This apparently includes the freehold, parlor games etc. last time I checked anyways.

Mionikoi

I think, if it's ingame gold for in-game gold... It should be fine, yes? IRL you loose and gain nothing (other than time.)

Child Item