Looking to upgrade your PC for Alpha 2?

EDIT: Updated Alpha 2 Specs

Just a little PSA.

Minimum and recommended computer specifications for Alpha-2.

Minimum Specs - 1080p
Processor: Intel i5 8400 | AMD Ryzen 5 2600

Memory: 12GB

Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 1070 or equivalent

DirectX: Version 12

Network: Broadband Internet connection

Storage: 100GB SSD Storage

Windows 10/11

Recommend Specs - 1440p
Processor: Intel i7 8700 | AMD Ryzen 5 3600

Memory: 16GB

Graphics: NVIDIA RTX 3070 or equivalent

DirectX: Version 12

Network: Broadband Internet connection

Storage: 100GB SSD Storage

Windows 10/11

Please note that these requirements will change throughout our testing phases.

2024 is the year of potential big leaps for CPUs in the gaming world.

AMD and Intel are both launching new chips in 2024 that have potential significant increase, in performance and energy efficiency.

CPU

AMD with their 8000 series
Intel with their 15th Gens.

GPU

AMD to launch 7000 series GPUs in early 2024
Nvidia to launch 5000 Series in late 2024 or early 2025

So if you're looking to upgrade, I would recommend looking into waiting till the release of these components, or to get a discount on existing components when the new ones release.

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TheDarkSorcerer

I have set aside a budget of 2k when Ashes comes out. Wish I knew how to build my own though

Vyril

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

I have set aside a budget of 2k when Ashes comes out. Wish I knew how to build my own though

TBH - A few Youtube videos will get you there. Patience and a willingness to learn and you should be good to go.

Galaturc

Thanks for the update, this is very relevant.

Depraved

Vyril wrote: »

Just a little PSA.

2024 is the year of potential big leaps for CPUs in the gaming world.

AMD and Intel are both launching new chips in 2024 that have potential significant increase, in performance and energy efficiency.

CPU
AMD with their 8000 series

Intel with their 15th Gens.

GPU
AMD to launch 7000 series GPUs in early 2024

Nvidia to launch 5000 Series in late 2024 or early 2025

So if you're looking to upgrade, I would recommend looking into waiting till the release of these components, or to get a discount on existing components when the new ones release.

oh yeah! I've been gaming on my laptop but I built a desktop a while back but couldn't get a GPU. I'm buying an RX 7600 XT for that desktop. that GPU is coming out at the end of this month, I think, but I always like to wait 2-3 months to buy tech stuff after they come out. I play on 1080 so I probs don't need more than that

Vyril

Depraved wrote: »

Vyril wrote: »

Just a little PSA.

2024 is the year of potential big leaps for CPUs in the gaming world.

AMD and Intel are both launching new chips in 2024 that have potential significant increase, in performance and energy efficiency.

CPU
AMD with their 8000 series

Intel with their 15th Gens.

GPU
AMD to launch 7000 series GPUs in early 2024

Nvidia to launch 5000 Series in late 2024 or early 2025

So if you're looking to upgrade, I would recommend looking into waiting till the release of these components, or to get a discount on existing components when the new ones release.

oh yeah! I've been gaming on my laptop but I built a desktop a while back but couldn't get a GPU. I'm buying an RX 7600 XT for that desktop. that GPU is coming out at the end of this month, I think, but I always like to wait 2-3 months to buy tech stuff after they come out. I play on 1080 so I probs don't need more than that

Be careful about upgrading your GPU without upgrading the CPU. You'll have bottlenecks, and not get the performance you paid for on the GPU.

Depraved

Vyril wrote: »

Depraved wrote: »

Vyril wrote: »

Just a little PSA.

2024 is the year of potential big leaps for CPUs in the gaming world.

AMD and Intel are both launching new chips in 2024 that have potential significant increase, in performance and energy efficiency.

CPU
AMD with their 8000 series

Intel with their 15th Gens.

GPU
AMD to launch 7000 series GPUs in early 2024

Nvidia to launch 5000 Series in late 2024 or early 2025

So if you're looking to upgrade, I would recommend looking into waiting till the release of these components, or to get a discount on existing components when the new ones release.

oh yeah! I've been gaming on my laptop but I built a desktop a while back but couldn't get a GPU. I'm buying an RX 7600 XT for that desktop. that GPU is coming out at the end of this month, I think, but I always like to wait 2-3 months to buy tech stuff after they come out. I play on 1080 so I probs don't need more than that

Be careful about upgrading your GPU without upgrading the CPU. You'll have bottlenecks, and not get the performance you paid for on the GPU.

that desktop has a ryzen 5 5th gen and one of the new boards. i built it a couple of years ago but didn't really use it as was gaming on my laptop and I couldn't really find a GPU that wasn't super overpriced. it was back then when btc got popular again xD

anyways, right now the desktop has a 7200 gtx, which I bought just so that I could turn it on while waiting for a GPU xDDD

patrick68794

nothing to upgrade to for me as of now lol and that won't be changing until 2025 most likely. Latest rumors for RTX 5000 series is late 2024, only if AMD releases something competitive (and it's been heavily rumored that there are no enthusiast level GPUs for RDNA4 so that's not likely) or if 4000 series sell poorly. Since AMD likely won't be releasing high end GPUs and the 4000 series is selling fine I don't expect a 5090 to be available until the end of January next year at the earliest and it probably won't be worth upgrading to for me to begin with if the rumors are true about the raster performance increases being smaller than the 3000 -> 4000 increase was

Nerror

The AMD 8000G CPUs look interesting if going for a very small form factor setup for some 1080p gaming without a dedicated GPU. Like in a mini PC/NUC. I very much doubt they'll beat the 7800X3D if paired with a dedicated GPU though, in gaming performance. The Intel 15th gen isn't coming out until well after A2 release most likely.

So for people buying a new PC this summer for the A2 release (and possibly the spot tests before it), the best CPU options really are the AMD 7800X3D or the Intel 14 series I think. Unless a tight budget forces you into older generations like the AM4 series 5800X3D, or the newer 5600X3D or 5700X3D, which honestly is probably fine for Ashes.

As for GPUs, I would really love to know how much Ashes will be leaning into RayTracing and if frame generation is good or bad for the game. I don't think we'll see the Nvidia 5000 series until 2025, so much later than A2 release, but depending on the prices this summer, the new nvidia Supers might be a good option. If RT and frame gen don't do much for Ashes, the AMD 7000 cards might very well give more bang for the buck.

And lets not forget about Intel's Battlemage GPU! It's probably coming out this year and might surprise us. They've improved the drivers a lot, and it might be a worthwhile budget contender.

Enigmatic Sage

I'm expecting some good advancements with RDNA 5 since they postponed it to this upcoming generation. Their new patent is something else. I will say though, the APU's are quite promising for future tech. .

Nvidia's 30xx and 40xx series are quite disappointing in my opinion especially for the price.

@Nerror I agree, Team Blue is going to be making some good advancements as well.

Undead Canuck

I figure that for Alpha 2, my current setup will be fine. Once we are a good way into the Alpha or close to launch, I will rebuild.
Soooo, early 2026?

patrick68794

Nerror wrote: »

The AMD 8000G CPUs look interesting if going for a very small form factor setup for some 1080p gaming without a dedicated GPU. Like in a mini PC/NUC. I very much doubt they'll beat the 7800X3D if paired with a dedicated GPU though, in gaming performance. The Intel 15th gen isn't coming out until well after A2 release most likely.

So for people buying a new PC this summer for the A2 release (and possibly the spot tests before it), the best CPU options really are the AMD 7800X3D or the Intel 14 series I think. Unless a tight budget forces you into older generations like the AM4 series 5800X3D, or the newer 5600X3D or 5700X3D, which honestly is probably fine for Ashes.

As for GPUs, I would really love to know how much Ashes will be leaning into RayTracing and if frame generation is good or bad for the game. I don't think we'll see the Nvidia 5000 series until 2025, so much later than A2 release, but depending on the prices this summer, the new nvidia Supers might be a good option. If RT and frame gen don't do much for Ashes, the AMD 7000 cards might very well give more bang for the buck.

And lets not forget about Intel's Battlemage GPU! It's probably coming out this year and might surprise us. They've improved the drivers a lot, and it might be a worthwhile budget contender.

Lumen by default uses a software based ray tracing solution so at the very least it will be present. There is an optional hardware based solution that's more accurate, offers a much further "fallback" range to rasterized techniques, supports more light bounces, and offers support for more "areas" of lighting (such as reflections and real time ambient occlusion for dynamic/moving objects) as well but most developers don't seem to be putting forth the effort to implement that (in fact I'm not sure any released game is using it, Lords of the Fallen might be based on the descriptions on the options for their lighting quality settings but that hasn't been confirmed as far as I'm aware).

sirston

new hard drives are on the horizon for my PC, I already "future-proofed" my PC with some tricked-out parts.

Enigmatic Sage

sirston wrote: »

new hard drives are on the horizon for my PC, I already "future-proofed" my PC with some tricked-out parts.

no such thing as "future" proofing when it comes to pc's. lol

patrick68794

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

new hard drives are on the horizon for my PC, I already "future-proofed" my PC with some tricked-out parts.

no such thing as "future" proofing when it comes to pc's. lol

I think that depends on what you want to do with your PC really. If all you're trying to do is play at 1080p 60fps then you absolutely can build a PC that will be overkill right now and still more than powerful enough to meet your needs in five or six years.

Nerror

720p enjoyers unite! My OC 4090 will keep me playing at 720p on my 13" OLED for the next decade or two I bet.

On a more serious note, can we get a 7680x2160 ultrawide OLED monitor that never burns in, and a GPU that can handle it at 240Hz and 240FPS in Ashes please? Is that too much to ask?

Enigmatic Sage

patrick68794 wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

new hard drives are on the horizon for my PC, I already "future-proofed" my PC with some tricked-out parts.

no such thing as "future" proofing when it comes to pc's. lol

I think that depends on what you want to do with your PC really. If all you're trying to do is play at 1080p 60fps then you absolutely can build a PC that will be overkill right now and still more than powerful enough to meet your needs in five or six years.

it's usually something consumers use to bargain with themselves to buy "newer" tech

It's a terrible habit to have. Consumers usually buy something that is completely overkill even for the next 5 years haha.

I usually aim to build a new computer to last for 8-10 years with overclocking in mind, replacing a graphics card every 5 years or so as that generationally is usually the standardisation for modern made games. You can usually upgrade to some better hardware near the end of life market for that generation for things such as storage and ram. Even having 32 GB of ram is still overkill lol.

Buy what is relevant.

patrick68794

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

patrick68794 wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

new hard drives are on the horizon for my PC, I already "future-proofed" my PC with some tricked-out parts.

no such thing as "future" proofing when it comes to pc's. lol

I think that depends on what you want to do with your PC really. If all you're trying to do is play at 1080p 60fps then you absolutely can build a PC that will be overkill right now and still more than powerful enough to meet your needs in five or six years.

it's usually something consumers use to bargain with themselves to buy "newer" tech It's a terrible habit to have. Consumers usually buy something that is completely overkill even for the next 5 years haha.

I usually aim to build a new computer to last for 8-10 years with overclocking in mind, replacing a graphics card every 5 years or so as that generationally is usually the standardisation for modern made games. You can usually upgrade to some better hardware near the end of life market for that generation for things such as storage and ram. Even having 32 GB of ram is still overkill lol.

Buy what is relevant.

32GB of RAM is most definitely not overkill anymore, there are multiple games that can use nearly that much memory by themselves now. Anno 1800 in late game can use up nearly 30GB by itself, so 32GB isn't even actually enough after taking into account memory used by Windows and other processes. So if you're a huge city builder fan and want to be able to play that game without issue then you will want at least 32GB of RAM, probably 64GB. Hogwarts Legacy can also use over 20GB of memory at times so 16GB isn't enough to run that game at max settings. So if someone wants to be able to do that then 32GB isn't overkill. MS Flight Sim is the same, I've seen it use over 24GB of memory.

Again, it's all about what you're wanting your PC to do. For some people high end hardware now is most definitely overkill but they buy it because they know it will last a long time for what they want and then they'll do it all over again in several years, and there's really nothing wrong with that. For others it's the only option to accomplish what they want and they'll be upgrading as soon as something newer is out, and there's really nothing wrong with that either. Ultimately what is "relevant" is subjective and everyone will have their own opinions about what that is.

Enigmatic Sage

think of it this way.

- PCIE 5.0 is becoming a standardisation, that's relevant for the next decade.
- DDR5 is becoming a standardisation, that's relevant for the next decade.
- 32 GB of RAM is a lot still, could always upgrade through halfway of generation if need be.
- Sata is essentially disappearing making m.2/pcie nvme storage relevant for the next decade.
- Graphics card generations change every 2-3 years minimum so replace it every 5-6 years to be relevant for modern games.
- Super sampling and frame generation are interesting but completely not necessary.
- 4k gaming is still in its early years in terms of optimisation. Going to be like 5+ years before 30-50% of the pc gamer market uses it regularly over 1440p.

Songcaller

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I'm expecting some good advancements with RDNA 5 since they postponed it to this upcoming generation. Their new patent is something else. I will say though, the APU's are quite promising for future tech. .

Nvidia's 30xx and 40xx series are quite disappointing in my opinion especially for the price.

@Nerror I agree, Team Blue is going to be making some good advancements as well.

What new patent?

Do you refer to GPU Chiplets?

Enigmatic Sage

Song_Warden wrote: »

Enigmatic Sage wrote: »

I'm expecting some good advancements with RDNA 5 since they postponed it to this upcoming generation. Their new patent is something else. I will say though, the APU's are quite promising for future tech. .

Nvidia's 30xx and 40xx series are quite disappointing in my opinion especially for the price.

@Nerror I agree, Team Blue is going to be making some good advancements as well.

What new patent?

Do you refer to GPU Chiplets?

multi GCD for RDNA5

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