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The LAST TIME you've seen a satisfying 1v1 PvP Match?

Probably? I'm guessing most of you HAVEN'T.

For yours truly? It was probably 2010 or 2011. <FoE> hosted a 100mil-credit fight between a former-guildie and another player, in SWG. Bounty-Hunter vs. Jedi, for anyone who didn't play SWG/hasn't tried SWG:Legends, in present-time.

Probably the most-satisfying PvP match yours truly EVER saw, in any game. Do you guys/gals think we'll get to see anything - en masse - in AoC, to compare?

Am really hoping Arena matches will be public-purvue, in our game. I mean, I doubt it.... But it's possible, if enough of us want it....

What do most of you think, for the ability to watch OTHER PEOPLES' PvP matches?



Comments

  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack
    I dont believe that people care to be spectators as a camera p.o.v.
    It's best done in small arenas near towns (4 fences in a no flagging zone), in which people walk in freely watch the fights of the players that gathered.

    Over time respect and reprecautions (getting your ass pked for being annoying) allpw for uninterrupted 1v1 in said arenas.
  • NiKrNiKr Member
    edited January 17
    L2's olympiad (1v1 arena) vids were great back in the day :)
  • patrick68794patrick68794 Member
    edited January 17
    depends on the kind of game. I've had plenty of satisfying 1v1 encounters in Halo over the years. The most satisfying though was one of my friends who was in his late 20s getting trash talked in Black Ops 2 by a 12 or 13 year old who then proceeded to absolutely destroy my friend when they played 1v1 lol

    also pretty much every 1v1 match in the Chivalry 2 arena is pretty satisfying
  • Depends on the game type. I have multiple, super satisying 1v1 PvP matches in Age Of Empires II DE on an almost daily basis. That's a RTS game though. For sandbox MMORPG-Character based PvP? I have loads in Albion Online in Corrupted Dungeons, Open World Dungeons, Duels and in Faction Warfare (The general open world is more rare for straight up 1v1 though) If you aren't having or watching satisfying PvP encounters then you aren't playing the right games.
  • I have seen some insane 1v1s in Battlerite and V Rising - but that is hardly applicable here since first one was an arena moba game and second one was their attempt on small scale sandbox survival.

    Extremely good games, both. Their publisher/developer .... Not so much.
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  • ILLPeonUILLPeonU Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Warhammer Online and DAoC
    "Don't Pee in the Wind"
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  • XeegXeeg Member
    I thought you meant Protoss vs Protoss.
  • Xeeg wrote: »
    I thought you meant Protoss vs Protoss.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Ox2t5c4As
  • ErdunErdun Member
    Yesterday in a pserver (turtle wow) a rogue vs a druid, while I was lvling up in southshore.
  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter
    SWG was the last time I also cared about a 1v1 fight. My heart is in large scale PvP. DAoC is still the most fun PvPing that often had my Minstrel stelthed on a hill watching the war unfold before me.
  • Darkfall was the game game i had the most interesting 1v1's in personaly, Vrising had a few interesting ones though however the game had issues in regards to the pvp systems i think that didnt let the game thrive for to long.
  • The last time I saw and participated in 1v1 pvp was in Guild Wars 2. Trailing behind the blobs and picking off the ones that couldn't keep up, or fighting the ones that were hunting the ones trailing the blobs. Had some amazing wins and losses. And alot of fun doing so. Really hope AoC can capture that feeling again.
  • JhorenJhoren Member
    edited January 18
    I don't think I've ever had a 1v1 that was satisfying, win or lose. Some group encounters that were good, but no 1v1. Maybe I just need someone to share the win or loss with.
  • oOLu_BuOooOLu_BuOo Member
    edited January 18
    Age of Wushu had some insanely satisfying 1v1 duels back in the day because it was really all about skill and reading your opponent to counter them at the correct time, etc. It felt basically like a real-life sparring session, just without getting hit, obviously. Apart from that, ESO occasionally has some really fun 1v1 battles, but it also has this problem where if two good players meet, you can just fight for a year and nobody will ever die until you both decide it's getting boring and you go separate ways. Also i feel like 1vX or 2vX are just way more fun in ESO then 1v1.

    I really hope that martial nodes will have the option to build an arena that starts as basically a square/circle on the ground where 2 players can duel without death penalties. If the node lvls up this building should be able to be upgraded as well eventually turning into a Colosseum on the highest node lvl. The higher the building lvl the more different game modes so to speak should be available. Like 2v2, 5v5, 10v10, Player vs Monster coin player etc. on Colosseum lvl it could even be cool to have a game mode where the Colosseum gets flooded, and you can do small scale naval duels.
    You should be able to go into this arena and watch the pvp battles from your characters perspective not from some spectator cam in my opinion. I have the Oblivion Arena in mind here.
    I personally think it would be super cool if you could bet on these fights as well I am just not sure how to make it, so it can't be abused. Maybe all the bets get put into a pot and the pot of the looser gets then equally distributed among the winners as well as the winners getting the amount they betted back ofc. I think this way it couldn't rly be abused, and you would get more money if was the only one that betted on the underdog while many betted on the favorite whereas if everybody bets on the favorite, and he wins everybody just gets his betting money back but no extra cash, so it can't be abused for some infinite money glitch by loosing or winning on purpose.
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  • Seen it today. Most 1v1 For Honor matches are fun if the both players are good.
  • Probably? I'm guessing most of you HAVEN'T.


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    ... ... ... ... fxxx.

    You're right. Unironically, the last satisfying One-v-One Matches i have seen, were around WOW VANILLA when either my Brother - or i - had Duels before Ironforge or Stormwind City with the Paladin we played.

    And then People whined and bitched all the time when Diem could "reflect" Fire and Ice-Shots due to being an Engineer - or asked permanently to "delete our Worldbuffs" our Character could pick up here and there. x'D

    Or when Diem won with like Three from Four Hits being critical Hits in an INSTANT - due to having Skilled a Talent, which would be called "Reckoning(?)/Payback(?)Deduction(?) or so - allowing a Paladin to stack Counter-Attacks up to four times when just being hit often enough 😉 . 😁


    Jepp.


    Okay i admit, we lost our Desire for Duels a loooonnnng time ago, so this is on ourselves that we haven't watched or experienced satisfying One-v-One's in a long time,

    but i doubt it would be possible again so easily - > with for Example in World of WoW-Token-Craft Players are running around with +3 to +4 Addons SOLELY to make their Character faster in PvP, hit every single Trinkets or Potions Effects out instantly,

    plus every Class being able to do almost anything, including Self-Heal, Stun, back away, etc. - i doubt One-v-One Matches would feel satisfying anymore in WoW.



    Or maybe i am just to negative towards that particular Game. I am a full solid 100% confident though, i would need to watch someone on YouTube or elsewhere, who specialises in One-v-One Matches, to see cool Duels or Open-World or Battle Ground Matches in which he amazingly fights worthy Opponents. ;)
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  • SathragoSathrago Member
    edited January 25
    Many of the arena matches in Blade and soul. Their combat was fast, intuitive and they had this perfect overview camera that followed the fights that was perfect for watching as a 3rd party. And make no mistake, this game basically played like wow with tab targetting projectiles and skill shots but a ton more counter tech and stunlock combos you had to contend with. it is not a side scrolling fighter game.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcmKVoYMQWw&amp;ab_channel=Blade%26Soul
    this is an example of the combat, and ill also post a video of the player perspective for the game in general.
    https://youtu.be/uOPpueR1xG0


    But yeah, I would love for this sort of feature to watch peoples matches built into the game. or at the very least be able to sit in the stands at matches I want to watch.
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  • VaknarVaknar Moderator, Member, Staff
    Probably? I'm guessing most of you HAVEN'T.

    For yours truly? It was probably 2010 or 2011. <FoE> hosted a 100mil-credit fight between a former-guildie and another player, in SWG. Bounty-Hunter vs. Jedi, for anyone who didn't play SWG/hasn't tried SWG:Legends, in present-time.

    Probably the most-satisfying PvP match yours truly EVER saw, in any game. Do you guys/gals think we'll get to see anything - en masse - in AoC, to compare?

    Am really hoping Arena matches will be public-purvue, in our game. I mean, I doubt it.... But it's possible, if enough of us want it....

    What do most of you think, for the ability to watch OTHER PEOPLES' PvP matches?




    What made it so satisfying??? I must know! Share more! Haha
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  • PyrololPyrolol Member
    edited January 26
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    Reckful had the best 1v1s
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member
    edited January 27
    Vaknar wrote: »
    What made it so satisfying??? I must know! Share more! Haha

    The best 1-v-1 PvP Matches/Duels to experience oneself, fall under a few simple Conditions.


    - The two Contestants must be about the same Strength. It is not Fun for both, when One more or less easily steamrolls and beats the other.

    - It must be a bit of refreshing, new Experience - every single time. This is also why it is important that no One is ever in a clear Advantage over the Other. Every Match must be a new Question of Who might win this time.


    - Both Players must have the Feeling that only their Skill and their Ability to "NOT" make a significant Mistake, matters. Even if the latter is up to pure Luck.
    When the Result of the Fight is something you can accept was only pure Luck, or Unfortunate because you made a Mistake and closely lost - that is usually the best Type of 1-v-1 Matches.


    Sometimes, Games are indeed capable of producing such PvP Matches. But it became a whole lot more rare in the last Decade, to some Extent. At least for People who seem to be "Casual Players". For Casual Players who don't use lots of PvP-Addons installed, it is sometimes up to cheer Luck if they find another Casual Player who is just like them.
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  • Well, I had satisfying 1x1 playing Dark Souls, not a MMO, but still has that multiplay.

    It was good because you could feel you were in control and the hits connected well, you have an idea about the opponent next move and act according to it (unless it was bait or the guy pulled a stunt). We could have long fights if both sides were playing well, countering well

    PvP is not great when there's ways to cheese the system, the fits, the builds and leave no counters to it. If there's counters then its amazing

    Final personal thought: when there are counters then PvP is good
    PvE means: A handful of coins and a bag of boredom.
  • Arya_Yeshe wrote: »
    Well, I had satisfying 1x1 playing Dark Souls, not a MMO, but

    but i am not sure if this should count. No Hate, just saying.

    I am admitting herewith and acknowledging -> EVERY. SOULSGAME. and/or the like, like Eldenring, has by FAAARRRR more superior One-v-One Matches, than what i can entrust most or all MMO's to have.

    No hate. Just saying what i have observed over many Years.
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  • May sound silly, but vanilla TERA when it was released in the west was so much fun for me. Isle of Dawn leveling and social interaction was really fun, and the duels happening were always really interesting and surprinsingly balanced, even when certain classes had an advantage over others (like Lancers vs Archers)
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  • Not wanting to be hated here,

    but aside from satisfying 1-v-1 Matche, i am confident we will see many satisfying MASS VERSUS MASS Matches, in which Players fulfil and perform amazing MASS BATTLES !!!!!

    I would be all willing and down to supporting Sides just to make them more balanced and fun.

    And of Course, when my OWN Node would be involved, i would fail to support the Attackers. I take Loyalty very seriously. Please not hate. I really mean it.
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