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Male/female

boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
edited March 11 in General Discussion
Can we get the classic male/female back for this character creator? Body type is just silly. We all know what the body types are. Male/female is more impactful.

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    LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    I'm confused
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    JhorenJhoren Member
    edited March 11
    Wrong forum? NDA? Might be about the character creator meant for current testers.
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    boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
    edited March 11
    I'm referring to the recent trend of games character creators replacing male/female selection with body type 1 or 2.

    We all know it's male/female so it just seems like sillyness to me. I see people discussing the female dwarfs appearance. Nobody is calling it body type 2s appearance. So why call it that in the creator?
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    JhorenJhoren Member
    Oh, nvm then :smile:

    Well, the world isn't as simple as male/female, never was, but now it's being recognized. I like how BG3 does it, but since we won't see genitals (or boobs) in Ashes it's all a bit moot.
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    Liniker wrote: »
    I'm confused

    Maybe discuss your feelings with a gender specialist. You're not alone anymore.
    The girl watched the last of the creatures die and murmured a soft 'Thank you' to her rescuer.

    The stranger's eyes lifted to the blood red cloud on the horizon.

    'We have to move. It's not safe here.'
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    Could also just not call it anything and just display the different types with suitable icons, and leave the naming to the players. c: Everybody wins!
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    Keep it simple, keep it old fasion. My vote is on male/female.
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    boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
    Jhoren wrote: »
    Oh, nvm then :smile:

    Well, the world isn't as simple as male/female, never was, but now it's being recognized. I like how BG3 does it, but since we won't see genitals (or boobs) in Ashes it's all a bit moot.

    If it's just body type 2, and not female, then why does one type have to wear a top and the other doesnt?
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    JhorenJhoren Member
    edited March 11
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Jhoren wrote: »
    Oh, nvm then :smile:

    Well, the world isn't as simple as male/female, never was, but now it's being recognized. I like how BG3 does it, but since we won't see genitals (or boobs) in Ashes it's all a bit moot.

    If it's just body type 2, and not female, then why does one type have to wear a top and the other doesnt?

    Because of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_content_rating_system
    Old-fashioned or outdated as it might be for some things, it's still a reality they have to consider.

    Edit: And they are trying to go for a Teen rating if they can: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation#ESRB_rating
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    boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
    Jhoren wrote: »
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Jhoren wrote: »
    Oh, nvm then :smile:

    Well, the world isn't as simple as male/female, never was, but now it's being recognized. I like how BG3 does it, but since we won't see genitals (or boobs) in Ashes it's all a bit moot.

    If it's just body type 2, and not female, then why does one type have to wear a top and the other doesnt?

    Because of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_content_rating_system
    Old-fashioned or outdated as it might be for some things, it's still a reality they have to consider.

    Edit: And they are trying to go for a Teen rating if they can: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation#ESRB_rating

    And who isnt allowed to go topless according to that system?
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    LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    AnimusRex wrote: »
    Maybe discuss your feelings with a gender specialist. You're not alone anymore.

    ahah thanks friend, but I identify as a capybara
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    JhorenJhoren Member
    edited March 11
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Jhoren wrote: »
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Jhoren wrote: »
    Oh, nvm then :smile:

    Well, the world isn't as simple as male/female, never was, but now it's being recognized. I like how BG3 does it, but since we won't see genitals (or boobs) in Ashes it's all a bit moot.

    If it's just body type 2, and not female, then why does one type have to wear a top and the other doesnt?

    Because of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_content_rating_system
    Old-fashioned or outdated as it might be for some things, it's still a reality they have to consider.

    Edit: And they are trying to go for a Teen rating if they can: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation#ESRB_rating

    And who isnt allowed to go topless according to that system?

    Women. This isn't the gotcha question you think it is lol. Laws and regulatory bodies have always been lagging behind societal norms and changes. Slavery/segregation/racial discimination, women's rights, homosexuality, mental ilnesses, the list is long. The past is rife with people, mosly conservative in nature, protesting change and progress, and being viewed as on the wrong side of history by most later on. Laws and regulations always lag behind where the majority of society currently is. That is completely normal. Intrepid has to navigate both where society as a whole is, and the laws and regulations they are subject to.
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    boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
    Correct. Women. Females. Not body type 2. Rest is word salad.

    They also are going to have same sex marriages. Awesome. How though without sexes? Same body type marriage? Wow. Brave.
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    JhorenJhoren Member
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Correct. Women. Females. Not body type 2. Rest is word salad.

    They also are going to have same sex marriages. Awesome. How though without sexes? Same body type marriage? Wow. Brave.

    No? That's just you casually erasing transpeople and nonbinary people. I'll be generous and assume you are writing from a point of ignorance and not malice, so here is further reading for you to understand: https://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-transgender-people-the-basics

    As for what Intrepid will end up doing, I have no clue. I think I like @Dezmerizing 's take on it.
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    Roleplay it. It would probably not be a thing in a world like this Ashes build. The races, if not specifically stated, would prolly be male/female. If someone wants to be trans, they can be trans, just tell people when you meet them. That does not change the fact though, that a female body is a female body, and a make body is a male body. It does not change your sex to be trans, only your gender, correct?
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    boredmuseboredmuse Member, Braver of Worlds
    edited March 11
    Jhoren wrote: »
    boredmuse wrote: »
    Correct. Women. Females. Not body type 2. Rest is word salad.

    They also are going to have same sex marriages. Awesome. How though without sexes? Same body type marriage? Wow. Brave.

    No? That's just you casually erasing transpeople and nonbinary people. I'll be generous and assume you are writing from a point of ignorance and not malice, so here is further reading for you to understand: https://transequality.org/issues/resources/understanding-transgender-people-the-basics

    As for what Intrepid will end up doing, I have no clue. I think I like @Dezmerizing 's take on it.

    I'm talking about calling female body types females and you're talking about political parties and slavery. They do not equate and you need to get off your high horse. "Further reading" What a condescending judgemental narcissist. You are not better than anybody else. Keep your generosity. Your judgement means less than nothing to me.
    I'm not erasing anybody. Do trans not start out as male or female? Isn't that the definition of trans? Try some brains and less feels.

    I notice you ignore the same sex marriage question. Convenient.
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    Liniker wrote: »
    AnimusRex wrote: »
    Maybe discuss your feelings with a gender specialist. You're not alone anymore.

    ahah thanks friend, but I identify as a capybara

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    Its quite an unreasonable modern trend for many games trying to farm some ESG score.
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    NiKrNiKr Member
    We will have fucking monsters as playable chars.

    WHO IN THE EVERLIVING FUCK CARES. My god, people are so damn weak that they can't even comprehend more options than 2.
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    VyrilVyril Member
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    VyrilVyril Member
    NiKr wrote: »
    We will have fucking monsters as playable chars.

    WHO IN THE EVERLIVING FUCK CARES. My god, people are so damn weak that they can't even comprehend more options than 2.

    Btw those monsters procreate.
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    NiKrNiKr Member
    Vyril wrote: »
    Btw those monsters procreate.
    Oh, I'm sure they do. Intrepid wouldn't want to miss out on the furry market.
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    AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    NiKr wrote: »
    Vyril wrote: »
    Btw those monsters procreate.
    Oh, I'm sure they do. Intrepid wouldn't want to miss out on the furry market.

    Triple plot twist, when Reptilian Tulnar only have 1 body type...
    Sorry, my native language is Erlang.
    
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    MybroViajeroMybroViajero Member
    edited March 12
    Azherae wrote: »
    NiKr wrote: »
    Vyril wrote: »
    Btw those monsters procreate.
    Oh, I'm sure they do. Intrepid wouldn't want to miss out on the furry market.

    Triple plot twist, when Reptilian Tulnar only have 1 body type...

    Quadruple plot twist , it is not of reptilian gender , it is a multicultural combination of several race and genres.

    Tulnars be like : fornicating is my passion
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    NerrorNerror Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Tulnar in general might have 5 or 6 or more body types.
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    Quadruple plot twist , it is not of reptilian gender , it is a multicultural combination of several race and genres.

    Quintuple twist. They all have a mandatory furry tail.

    The girl watched the last of the creatures die and murmured a soft 'Thank you' to her rescuer.

    The stranger's eyes lifted to the blood red cloud on the horizon.

    'We have to move. It's not safe here.'
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    Vyril wrote: »
    NiKr wrote: »
    We will have fucking monsters as playable chars.

    WHO IN THE EVERLIVING FUCK CARES. My god, people are so damn weak that they can't even comprehend more options than 2.

    Btw those monsters procreate.

    Of course they do, they're "fucking monsters".
    This link may help you: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/
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    XeegXeeg Member
    edited March 13
    When talking about reproduction, there are only two genders. When talking about conscious identity, there are infinite possibilities.

    BTW Alex Jones was wrong about the frogs. They didn't go gay, they went full trans. Completely able to reproduce as the other gender.

    Humans still aren't at that stage regardless of how we identify.

    Next we are going to have to tell Germans that tables aren't men, and tell the Spanish that tables aren't women either. It's amazing that people with languages like these managed to reproduce when they think inanimate objects have genders...

    ;)
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    nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter
    edited March 13
    Wish real life problems could be kept out of games. I play games to take a break from RL. IMO, let IS make the game they plan too and when they give us the game. We can decide if we want to play it. Vote with a wallet.
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    Vyril wrote: »

    Btw those monsters procreate.

    I checked my driveway. It is concreate.

    The girl watched the last of the creatures die and murmured a soft 'Thank you' to her rescuer.

    The stranger's eyes lifted to the blood red cloud on the horizon.

    'We have to move. It's not safe here.'
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