The Fighter - Ability spam

Voxtrium

In combat this ability is extraordinary powerful, as it stands now if you have 2 targets in front of you and use a single ability you will regen almost 100% of your mana bar and become nearly unkillable through 100% damage regen, I believe this ability negates most of the value of the mana bar as it currently stands. It appears like it would be very easy to do a full rotation - pop blood fusion on a high damage ability and do another full rotation - ESPECIALLY once you hit higher levels and have 15+ actives you can use.

Now that actually does feel good - but the problem is it heavily encourages a flashy quick fight with ability spam to kill your opponents. In this case in a 8v8 assuming one group is ganking (like in a caravan raid) the other, the tactic would be to simply blow everything to try to insta-kill as many players as possible as soon as the fight started - It is hard to tell for sure from looking from the outside - but this is what I would anticipate if you had 10,000 people on the server testing it.

Many of the abilities we have seen showcased are beautiful and many fit well into the longer TTK IS has indicated they want. However some of the passives that you can cast in combat are super short duration super high reward with super long cooldowns, the style of gameplay that I believe will encourage an absolute roll of anyone not expecting the visitors.

I know it is a bit early to tell the flow of combat but at least for the fighter he was full dive, full engage, the harder you go in the more you live, press every button and once you hit 50% HP pop blood fusion and become unkillable as long as you either use form of Fluidity or have someone to clear CC on you.

I understand IS goal is to make combat feel impactful and give reward to abilities being pressed at the right time which is why the actives have such low duration and such high impact. I am not suggesting IS remove all high reward low duration abilities, just don't make every ability this way.

My suggestion - Slow down the combat by slowing down the actives you have. Decrease their potency and extend their timelines but keep an ability or 2 per class that has the low duration high reward abilities. Additionally increase the mana a player has but decrease the regen of the mana.

My goal with this post was to indicate the fighter appears to decrease the value of the mana bar and a rotation by introducing insane mana and hp regen in addition to having an ability like Exert which will further exacerbate the capability of players to completely dominate as a fighter within the first few seconds of combat. Additionally combat as displayed in the fighter showcase will be heavily oriented towards blowing up players when the fight starts instead of a longer 30 second TTK that would encourage a counterplay by the defending team.

Ludullu

Voxtrium wrote: »

the style of gameplay that I believe will encourage an absolute roll of anyone not expecting the visitors.

Outside of the statement that the pvp ttk is shorter that what was stated before, I think that^ is the core of the supposed issue.

If the defending side is caught unaware by some fights - imo that's on the defenders, rather than the fighter's abilities.

If the defending group didn't have a tank and a healer who are always alert and can always pop a defensive+healing combo - that's a group that was doomed to fail even if the fighter didn't have Blood Fusion.

And those parties that do have this combo will easily deal with fighters whose entire job is to simply slam into players, do 2 rotations and then do nothing for a good minute. CCs exist, several forms of shields and protections will exist, different dashes/blinks/jumps will exist - all of which can address an attacking fighter.

So far I don't really see this as an issue. If anything, the bigger issue, as some people in the feedback thread pointed out, is that these fighters would be so damn out of position in relation to their own party that they'd be pretty much suiciding into a crowd of people, because the range on their dashes is immense. And if they are not out of position - the attacking group would do their thing even w/o Blood Fusion form the fighter.

In other words, to me this is just normal pvp interactions, until proven otherwise by other archetype skillsets.