The One Node to rule them all!

What if there was a possibility within the game mechanics such that should a variety of onerous conditions be met and maintained by the citizens of a zone and perhaps even include conditions met with their relationships with other nodes that said node might just unlock a "dark node". Limited to one per server and time constrained.

A dark node being a node that had rewards and risk that came with being a full pvp zone, and chaotic evil zone!

Just a what if!

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McShave

I like the idea of hidden things that nodes can do to unlock certain unique elements. Corrupt node would be interesting to test, but it might ruin a server.

akabear

McShave wrote: »

I like the idea of hidden things that nodes can do to unlock certain unique elements. Corrupt node would be interesting to test, but it might ruin a server.

I think you have coined where I guess I was coming from and then an extension of this;

Dynamic Zone Changes Based on Node Status when reaching number one status of its given typology.

War and Conflict:

When a node reaches the maximum number of alliances/nodes/guilds at war or pvps or pks.. the zone's atmosphere changes. Visuals could include a sky tinged with red, similar to the corrupted zones in New World, symbolizing the heightened tension and conflict.

Maybe a pvp zone too.. but may not need.

Economic Vibrancy:

If a node becomes the number one economic hub, visual indicators could reflect its wealth. For example, luxurious buildings, bustling marketplaces, and decorative elements like gold trim on structures, signaling prosperity to players.

Scientific Nodes:

When a scientific node reaches its peak, the zone could showcase advanced technology. Features might include futuristic architecture, enhanced lighting, and unique structures like observatories or research labs.

Maybe unlock new / rare resouces.

Religious Nodes:

A thriving religious node might transform the zone with spiritual imagery. This could involve grand temples, holy light effects, and serene music, creating a sacred and tranquil environment.

Cultural Influence:

If a node becomes a cultural epicenter, the zone could be adorned with art, music, and festivals. Players might see murals, hear unique soundtracks, and encounter NPCs performing traditional dances or music.

Environmental Impact:

Nodes that focus on nature and the environment could have lush, vibrant landscapes when thriving. This might include more abundant wildlife, richer vegetation, and visually appealing natural phenomena like auroras or enhanced weather effects.

Maybe a pve only zone, but maybe not.

The idea was aim to reward and unlock change and experience by visually reflecting the status and influence of various node types in Ashes of Creation, adding depth, variance and dynamic elements to the game world.

Otr

akabear wrote: »

McShave wrote: »

I like the idea of hidden things that nodes can do to unlock certain unique elements. Corrupt node would be interesting to test, but it might ruin a server.

I think you have coined where I guess I was coming from and then an extension of this;

Dynamic Zone Changes Based on Node Status when reaching number one status of its given typology.

War and Conflict:

When a node reaches the maximum number of alliances/nodes/guilds at war or pvps or pks.. the zone's atmosphere changes. Visuals could include a sky tinged with red, similar to the corrupted zones in New World, symbolizing the heightened tension and conflict.

Maybe a pvp zone too.. but may not need.

Assuming this PvP zone would allow everyone to fight each-other, initially the ZoI would be unstable because players would send resources into the sink faster than other normal ZoIs. It would put the node at disadvantage compared to the other nodes.
But eventually the better PvP guilds could reach an agreement to attack only intruders. Then the node would be like a normal node but were you can prevent others to come to harvest your resources. It could potentially be more efficient if they harvest efficiently.
If this node would have vassals, then it's ZoI would be larger and with better resource drops.
Players in this node could also go outside and pillage resources from others, kill their gatherers and return corrupted into their home area where they are protected by allies against whoever dares to come and hunt them, while they remove the corruption.
Being a PvP zone, guards in the node would probably not attack corrupted players. Otherwise their only purpose would be to prevent players to use storage, crafting benches and whatever things the node offers, which would make no sense from lore point of view and would be just an annoyance.
If this node would be a metropolis, it would be like 20% of players would be at war against the rest of the map (if the map is full). They could still have agreements (made outside of the game) to prevent all others join forces. The map could look like a PvP continent vs a PvX continent, with a PvP ocean in-between.

The corruption mechanic exists to prevent the chaos which would happen in the PvP zone if they attack each-other.
The node leveling with vassals assigned by the game (not by players) prevents well defined permanent factions.

akabear wrote: »

Environmental Impact:

Nodes that focus on nature and the environment could have lush, vibrant landscapes when thriving. This might include more abundant wildlife, richer vegetation, and visually appealing natural phenomena like auroras or enhanced weather effects.

Maybe a pve only zone, but maybe not.

The PvE zone would exclude itself from the PvX environment of the game and would need a different approach to keep players happy there and to function as a PvE game, while still being able to trade with the rest of the map. Resource scarcity would be more pronounced as you could not declare any wars. Caravans would be boring, maybe attacked only by NPCs... I would move all stories and quests into that region.

Chances are none of these will happen.

Githal

Maybe this can be made in the way that a particular Metropolis with its vasal nodes declare war for world domination. So they are some kind of the Empire trying to conquest everyone else. This war can be activated only once all 5 Metropolises are fully developed. and the goal of the "empire" is to destroy every other Metropolis until only their own is left. For each Metropolis they demolish they get some reward, and the risk is that the world will turn against you, so the chances that you will lose your own metropolis is pretty huge.

Dygz

CROW3 wrote: »

Ashes is PvX, so players and mobs make up the risk (and rewards) for making your way into the world. Creating segmented zones will erode this entire concept - turning Ashes into another wow clone.

Except Steven almost never, ever talks about mobs as Risk.
96% of the times when Steven mentions Risk, he talks about PvP.

Blip

Love the idea of corupted players heving a "safe haven" of sorts.

Dygz

I have issues with equating "dark" with PvP and Evil.
I would rather have "Evil PvP" equated with Red and Corruption - so a Red Node rather than a "dark" Node.
But, then that has implications about rewarding Corruption.

Seems like you're really asking for the possibility of a Purple, Free-For-All, Corruption-Free PvP Metro.
Which would be OK with me now that Ashes has the Open Seas.

Moar PvP!!
*RAWR*

Arya_Yeshe

this is good

Aszkalon

akabear wrote: »

The One Node to rule them all !

I think You might be hyped for the incoming Presentation in One to Two Days.

akabear

Dygz wrote: »

I have issues with equating "dark" with PvP and Evil.
I would rather have "Evil PvP" equated with Red and Corruption - so a Red Node rather than a "dark" Node.
But, then that has implications about rewarding Corruption.

Seems like you're really asking for the possibility of a Purple, Free-For-All, Corruption-Free PvP Metro.
Which would be OK with me now that Ashes has the Open Seas.

Moar PvP!!
*RAWR*

I think my own outlook has evolved as the conversation progressed.

Going back to my earlier post with more fleshed out ideas for multiple nodes

Specifically for the pvp node; I think it would be good to have "tells" or "ambience" for a node that is heavily pvp orientated so those passing by or entering gain an awareness in advance.

Aszkalon

Still half a Day ... ... ... ... GRRRRRRRRRRRRR, pass faster, Time.

Since when did the Time between the monthly Presentations started to feel so long ?

Oh jeah.
Since last Year and since i got hyped for Ashes of Creation in general. Hueh hueh hueh hueh.

But especially since around January to February. Because Alpha Two got announced and of Course it would be Quarter Three or further into the Future.

Needs - Info.
Footage.
" Data ". (

)
More awesome things to feed my Excitement for Sir Steven's and his mighty Crew's great Game that slowly but surely approaches on the Horizon.

When was the last Time i felt genuinely excited in an MMO ?
WoW Vanilla. Which is by now a h~UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Amount of Years in the Past.

Peon from HiddenDaggerInn is not the only One who wants to be let in.

Evilblood

Dygz wrote: »

I have issues with equating "dark" with PvP and Evil.
I would rather have "Evil PvP" equated with Red and Corruption - so a Red Node rather than a "dark" Node.
But, then that has implications about rewarding Corruption.

Seems like you're really asking for the possibility of a Purple, Free-For-All, Corruption-Free PvP Metro.
Which would be OK with me now that Ashes has the Open Seas.

Moar PvP!!
*RAWR*

Wait! Aren't you the anti pvp guy?

Depraved

Evilblood wrote: »

Dygz wrote: »

I have issues with equating "dark" with PvP and Evil.
I would rather have "Evil PvP" equated with Red and Corruption - so a Red Node rather than a "dark" Node.
But, then that has implications about rewarding Corruption.

Seems like you're really asking for the possibility of a Purple, Free-For-All, Corruption-Free PvP Metro.
Which would be OK with me now that Ashes has the Open Seas.

Moar PvP!!
*RAWR*

Wait! Aren't you the anti pvp guy?

he only pvp when he is in the mood for it. if he is forced into it, he usually rages quit.
he is a hardcore time, casual challenge player with a battle score of I forgot but he is an explorer
he doesn't want people shoving cake down others throat and doesn't wanna be near or with people who like shoving cake down others throat forcefully (cake is pvp here).

the dark comment seems that he wanted to be anti racist, but made him sound racist (dark = black people?). dark also means the opposite of bright. shadow and light. dark/shadow arts for example. being hidden, stealthy, maybe assassination. having a dark soul, the opposite of a pure soul?

anti heroes can have a dark heart, but not be necessary evil ;3

pvpers arent evil. corrupted players arent evil.

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