Money spent on game already, BY YOU!

Love to know what people have already spent on all these little things they keep releasing I get the feeling they making more money now, than a lot of released MMOs do.

So if its not to personal. drop a ball park figure! of what you have spent (added, not what's everyone has spent, what you personally have spent, thought that was clear, obviously not from the answers)

I would say if you not actually going to answer the question, don't post, but no chance of that, people love getting their 2 pennies in! ( no pun intended)

PLEASE READ & UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BEFORE REPLYING

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nanfoodle

No one knows the real numbers but some people have have done things like look up the average rent where they are. Checking how many staff and cost for their roles. Some guess that Steven has spent about 40 mill and take in another 45 mill. But take all that with a large grain of salt. Most expensive MMO was KToR. At 200 mill. It you don't count SC.

RocketFarmer

Answer should be what you’ve put in compared to your perceived value. Put it into perspective. Need a baseline. I’d use the $15 per month ($180 per year) for that as a minimum expenditure for a released game like WoW. Using subscription model since it’s more comparable to AoC (no box price and not free to play). If you are spending more in the other games you play via their cash shop, then factor that too. I do not use the cash shop in other games, and I generally stay clear of pay-to-win games. Probably best to use yearly comparisons since AoC is years and years from launch.

I paid the $250 for the Voyager pack in July 2022. $90 of that is for future game time and $100 is credit (embers) for the shop which would count more like purchasing a gift certificate. $60 covers Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2. The Alpha 2 will be persistent starting in May 2025 and runs through launch. Overall I’ve predicted 10 years development (estimated that in 2021 based on seeing the Alpha 1 version of the game). That puts my prediction for Launch as 3Q 2031. The time between Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 makes me more confident in my original estimate.

If you were to consider the Alpha 2 to be a fraction of a released game, say 1/4th, then the value proposition for the cost of that would be $180/4 = $45 per year. So say we have 7 years to go from the start of persistent Alpha 2 (and I still see May 2025 as their target rather than a firm date, so we’ll be generous), then total value through launch is $315. So it’s $60 paid versus $315 value.

The other $190 has no difference in value other than the principle of time value of money (how much I could have earned on that $190 over 7 years) or the value of the game being zero because it fails to launch (which is the risk of a pre-order rather than a regular purchase). For me, the $100 embers is probably a loss or no real net benefit unless gifting embers is permissible. So I could deduct that from the $315 value, which would make it $215 net gain (benefit) over 7 years, or $30 and some change each year.

Also, value is subjective. I’m basing this on entertainment value versus my time and money. The monthly cost over seven years amounts to $3.75 per month for around 30-40 hours per month, more or less depending on available time and whether I am getting something out of the experience. The price of most other entertainment activities are significantly higher. AoC Alpha 2 would cost around 10 cents an hour for me (could cost a lot less for others who have more game time and don’t have other entertainment outlets). Now something could happen where the company shuts down or I totally lose interest in the game. Again, that’s the known risk of a pre-order of a game in this state of development. At the same time, if you view the value of Alpha 2 being more than 1/4th of a released game, then price to benefit becomes even more favorable.

Nemeses

nanfoodle wrote: »

No one knows the real numbers but some people have have done things like look up the average rent where they are. Checking how many staff and cost for their roles. Some guess that Steven has spent about 40 mill and take in another 45 mill. But take all that with a large grain of salt. Most expensive MMO was KToR. At 200 mill. It you don't count SC.

Why do people always rush to talk nonsense, I did not ask for the overall figure, I asked what each person had spent, and that they do know!!!

RocketFarmer

So can we take it that nanfoodle paid $0?

I believe EA spent around $500M to launch SWTOR, and that was around 15 years ago.

Nemeses

RocketFarmer wrote: »

So can we take it that nanfoodle paid $0?

I believe EA spent around $500M to launch SWTOR, and that was around 15 years ago.

and?

iccer

$0

Which is not surprising, since I'm not going to spend more than $50 up front on a game anyways, especially if I don't even get to play it.

I also am probably not going to be able to play the game for another 4 years, or however long it takes for it to release, so I don't see any point in spending money. Sure, supporting development, and what not, but I simply don't have money to waste, and they've said they don't need the money.
I'm also a huge opponent of pre-ordering games, because in most cases it's stupid to do so, unless you've already played a version of that game previously, and you know what to expect.

I also feel my experience might be "ruined" if I played the game in a half-finished state first, so I just want to go in when the game is actually somewhat finished (probably around closed/open beta).

Hinotori

I spent $1000 USD on my package and purchased an extra $1600 worth of cosmetics through the years.

Release will basically be like one big gift to myself.

RocketFarmer

Nemeses wrote: »

RocketFarmer wrote: »

So can we take it that nanfoodle paid $0?

I believe EA spent around $500M to launch SWTOR, and that was around 15 years ago.

and?

Meaning most expensive MMO was a lot more than $200M. Not that Intrepid will get anywhere near that, as I think they might shutter if it’s getting over $100M from Steven’s pocket. I don’t think crowdsourcing can cover it, even if they go crazy in squeezing money from would be players with whatever schemes, real or imagined.

Caww

$475 US

Nemeses

RocketFarmer wrote: »

Nemeses wrote: »

RocketFarmer wrote: »

So can we take it that nanfoodle paid $0?

I believe EA spent around $500M to launch SWTOR, and that was around 15 years ago.

and?

Meaning most expensive MMO was a lot more than $200M. Not that Intrepid will get anywhere near that, as I think they might shutter if it’s getting over $100M from Steven’s pocket. I don’t think crowdsourcing can cover it, even if they go crazy in squeezing money from would be players with whatever schemes, real or imagined.

Which still has absolutely nothing to do with the question.

RocketFarmer

Nemeses wrote: »

RocketFarmer wrote: »

Nemeses wrote: »

RocketFarmer wrote: »

So can we take it that nanfoodle paid $0?

I believe EA spent around $500M to launch SWTOR, and that was around 15 years ago.

and?

Meaning most expensive MMO was a lot more than $200M. Not that Intrepid will get anywhere near that, as I think they might shutter if it’s getting over $100M from Steven’s pocket. I don’t think crowdsourcing can cover it, even if they go crazy in squeezing money from would be players with whatever schemes, real or imagined.

Which still has absolutely nothing to do with the question.

So?

Nemeses

Caww wrote: »

$475 US

Crikey, that's a lot.
if there are thousands like you out there, this game may never be released

Can I ask what on? I'm just curious now/ (are you married, does the wife know

)
Should add I've spent £0

Smaashley

Nemeses wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

No one knows the real numbers but some people have have done things like look up the average rent where they are. Checking how many staff and cost for their roles. Some guess that Steven has spent about 40 mill and take in another 45 mill. But take all that with a large grain of salt. Most expensive MMO was KToR. At 200 mill. It you don't count SC.

Why do people always rush to talk nonsense, I did not ask for the overall figure, I asked what each person had spent, and that they do know!!!

If your question was actually clear, people wouldn't be confused by it. Google translator is your best friend.

RocketFarmer

Caww wrote: »

$475 US

When? Prior to Alpha 1 or after?

Question: How much more would you have spent if they were offering a full merch shop with tangible things like shirts, hats, sandals, etc?

Ludullu

A very cool $75

Caww

Nemeses wrote: »

Caww wrote: »

$475 US

Crikey, that's a lot.
if there are thousands like you out there, this game may never be released

Can I ask what on? I'm just curious now/ (are you married, does the wife know )
Should add I've spent £0

Wife will never find out! *fingers crossed* $375 package thing and misc. cosmetics that caught my eye

RocketFarmer wrote: »

Caww wrote: »

$475 US

When? Prior to Alpha 1 or after?

Question: How much more would you have spent if they were offering a full merch shop with tangible things like shirts, hats, sandals, etc?

Joined and purchased after A1 and since I don't wear merch. of any kind or collect, I would not have purchased physical merch, just the occasional ingame items would be of interest.

Nemeses

Smaashley wrote: »

Nemeses wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

No one knows the real numbers but some people have have done things like look up the average rent where they are. Checking how many staff and cost for their roles. Some guess that Steven has spent about 40 mill and take in another 45 mill. But take all that with a large grain of salt. Most expensive MMO was KToR. At 200 mill. It you don't count SC.

Why do people always rush to talk nonsense, I did not ask for the overall figure, I asked what each person had spent, and that they do know!!!

If your question was actually clear, people wouldn't be confused by it. Google translator is your best friend.

Well if its not clear enough to you, I would suspect the issue lays with you.
ask mum to translate.

Nemeses

Hinotori wrote: »

I spent $1000 USD on my package and purchased an extra $1600 worth of cosmetics through the years.

Release will basically be like one big gift to myself.

Ouch, it should be illegal what these guys are doing, I know its your choice, but they definitely play the 'if you don't get it now, its gone forever' card.
And its not that I'm tight for money I own a reasonably successful small company, (less so now after Brexit & Covid

) but the money these guys are milking is crazy

Smaashley

Nemeses wrote: »

Smaashley wrote: »

Nemeses wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

No one knows the real numbers but some people have have done things like look up the average rent where they are. Checking how many staff and cost for their roles. Some guess that Steven has spent about 40 mill and take in another 45 mill. But take all that with a large grain of salt. Most expensive MMO was KToR. At 200 mill. It you don't count SC.

Why do people always rush to talk nonsense, I did not ask for the overall figure, I asked what each person had spent, and that they do know!!!

If your question was actually clear, people wouldn't be confused by it. Google translator is your best friend.

Well if its not clear enough to you, I would suspect the issue lays with you.
ask mum to translate.

Doesn't lay only with me when other people don't understand your question. I did understand your question, but the way it was sentenced, it can lead to misinterpretation. Don't be offended by that, simply make it more clear.

Dodoz

$75 Wayfarer + $50 A2 upgrade = $125
Only spent that much (ok, a good bit more) on a game twice before, and that was WoW subscription & Tibia premiums over a few years.

The cope is real... But nothing has thrown me off too much watching this game & studio develop, and it has been years since I've played an MMO (last was Guild Wars 2) so the withdrawals are there. Although being more mature now, I'm actually looking forward to legitimate testing and providing some feedback that hopefully won't go unheard. Goal is to find at least 3 glitches or some significant economical/trading imbalances.

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