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Idea for RELIGION

GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
in General Discussion
I really hope, religion is not required unless it is my RL religion. Religion in a game should always be optional. Some people may be ok with some religious things and not ok with other things. Please do not give incentives to only people who follow a particular religion, UNLESS you can name the religion to your own and the things your able to do are somehow decided by the player - maybe optional quests to add to our custom religions via choices with an in-game tool. TY!
..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"

Comments

  • LodrigLodrig Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 19
    I can assure you that none of the religions in game will be your RL religion, they will all be fantasy religions like every Roleplaying game has had for decades. And they will certainly be optional as the player will not start with one and need never join, just like other social orgs which is really all that religions in game are.

    As for benifits I am sure all will have some kind even if it is just access to augments, I would not be surprized if the players collectivly unlock the buffs by doing quests. Alternativly the highest ranked player aka the 'pope' of said religion might be able to pick effects unilaterally.
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    How do you know this? I have no problem it being in game for people who want it, as long as I am not praying or working for a God or religion I do not believe in.

    Also, ty for your response!
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • PyrololPyrolol Member, Alpha Two
    > Makes a thread about religion
    > Has Michael the archangel as his profile picture

    What about us atheists 😂
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  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    Pyrolol wrote: »
    > Makes a thread about religion
    > Has Michael the archangel as his profile picture

    What about us atheists 😂

    I have no problem with whatever you or anyone else believes. I do have a religion personally. Any acts that are for another are against mine is all im concerned about. As long as it is optional, I will be happy. Many things against what I believe can be added for others and again, I am fine with that, as long as I am in no way forced to take part in it.

    That said, I do hope there is something for all of us in this regard. I have high hopes! TY for your response! Also, I love you and everyone, I respect your freedom and am happy to be able to chat with you.
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • LodrigLodrig Member, Alpha Two
    Grulsh wrote: »
    How do you know this?

    I have FAITH :)
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Grulsh wrote: »
    Religion in a game should always be optional.

    not really, that depends on what type of game you want to do.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Grulsh wrote: »
    I really hope, religion is not required unless it is my RL religion.


    Denied.




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  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    I mean, speaking of fantasy role play…
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  • CawwCaww Member, Alpha Two
    the wiki speaks....

    Religions are organizations that players can join, similar to social organizations.[3][4]

    Religion is essentially a different flavor of social organization that players can join... Because we're a non-faction-based game, we have to have a lot of mechanisms that create these pseudo factions that can categorize players into different groups where friction is possible.[3] – Steven Sharif

    There are six primary religions as well as a Tulnar/Underrealm religion.[2][5][6]
    The Tulnar religion is a combination of religious beliefs of the major races as well as pagan beliefs of the minor races over time as they coexisted together in the Underrealm.[7]

    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Religions
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    TY for the link and post! Below is a quote from that post as well.

    "Atheism
    Players may choose not to follow a religion.[21][22]

    If you want to abstain from the religion progression path you may do so... It's not gonna hurt you I guess, because a lot of these augments are "sidegrades". But I think you'd be missing out on a lot of what the game has to offer.[23] – Jeffrey Bard

    To answer, "do you have to go down a religious path". You don't have to. The idea of that path is to provide a horizontal progression. So it doesn't become a requirement in order to maintain parity with other people advancing.[22] – Steven Sharif".
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • CaerylCaeryl Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Weird thing to get hung up over, but yeah you can leave out that progression path
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    haha I hear ya. We all have something that we like or dislike. When it comes to religion, there are those who are sensitive about it, I happen to be one of them. That said, I am thrilled that just like many other CHOICES or options, it is available for both sides of the coin.
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Grulsh wrote: »
    haha I hear ya. We all have something that we like or dislike. When it comes to religion, there are those who are sensitive about it, I happen to be one of them. That said, I am thrilled that just like many other CHOICES or options, it is available for both sides of the coin.

    well, now you are an atheist. welcome brother ;3
  • LodrigLodrig Member, Alpha Two
    This raises an interesting point.

    What is the cap on the number of social-organizations you can join? To what degree are their mutually incompatable? I'm assuming all the religions are mutually exclusive so you can only be in one at a time.

    But dose that mean that you have effectivly one 'slot' for religion and say for example 3 other orgs? I would hope that a character without a religion can join more social orgs to compensate.
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    Grulsh wrote: »
    haha I hear ya. We all have something that we like or dislike. When it comes to religion, there are those who are sensitive about it, I happen to be one of them. That said, I am thrilled that just like many other CHOICES or options, it is available for both sides of the coin.

    well, now you are an atheist. welcome brother ;3

    ROFL naaa... I have a firm belief in God! =)

    I am truly excited about this game! Glad you are part of it!
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    Grulsh wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    Grulsh wrote: »
    haha I hear ya. We all have something that we like or dislike. When it comes to religion, there are those who are sensitive about it, I happen to be one of them. That said, I am thrilled that just like many other CHOICES or options, it is available for both sides of the coin.

    well, now you are an atheist. welcome brother ;3

    ROFL naaa... I have a firm belief in God! =)

    I am truly excited about this game! Glad you are part of it!

    bruh you didn't get it. suppose you are so convinced that being part of a religion in a video game equals you worshipping another god and therefore going to hell. In that case, it stands to reason that if you aren't part of any religion and don't believe in any of the gods in said video game, then you are an atheist.

    you could always say well, its not me, its my character. but if that's the case, then your character can worship any god from any religion, since its not you.

    if you have a problem worshipping a fictional god in a video game, then you have a problem not believing as well, aka atheist. pick a side.

    ahh wow. you are right, it went over my head. lol... Good point. Its a strange thing really in games. If there is no belief system for my character in-game that I agree with and all the religions in it are not for my character, then for this game, you are correct in a way with what he is. That said, I will have to role play in my head that he still has my beliefs if that makes sense.
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    =D

    or

    roleplay he infiltrated another religion to destroy it... :D
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    The only religion that cant be destroyed is the one God endorses. I wont get into more than that on forums for a video game though. =) I am here for this great game and I enjoy chatting with you and others.
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • VoeltzVoeltz Member
    I'll be joining the one that let's me kill people :)
  • simbosssimboss Member, Alpha Two
    Dafuk
  • SolbranthiusSolbranthius Member, Alpha Two
    I'm not religious (though open to the idea of 'something' being out there) but I respect your commitment to your belief system, OP.

    It's an admirable trait, especially in an era where many individuals will cast aside even their supposedly firm beliefs on a whim just to get a perceived, momentary advantage.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Solbranthius wrote: »
    I'm not religious (though open to the idea of 'something' being out there) but I respect your commitment to your belief system, OP.

    It's an admirable trait, especially in an era where many individuals will cast aside even their supposedly firm beliefs on a whim just to get a perceived, momentary advantage.

    what if someone believed in something evil. would you still admire them for staying firm and committed to their beliefs? just wondering.
  • BlipBlip Member, Alpha Two
    Voeltz wrote: »
    I'll be joining the one that let's me kill people :)

    Hello, brother. I'll see you in church. 😅😄
  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I still hope for an Agnostic or Atheist line that has progression.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    What is so hard to understand on the fact - > that Verra - is not our Earth ? :sweat:



    There is no Christianity, no Buddhism, no Islam, no Judaism, no Scientology, no flying Spaghetti-Monster, no nothing and nuffin'. :sweat_smile: - instead the People of Verra will have the Religions they had in their own (Fantasy) Universe since whenever they had them.
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  • SolbranthiusSolbranthius Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    Solbranthius wrote: »
    I'm not religious (though open to the idea of 'something' being out there) but I respect your commitment to your belief system, OP.

    It's an admirable trait, especially in an era where many individuals will cast aside even their supposedly firm beliefs on a whim just to get a perceived, momentary advantage.

    what if someone believed in something evil. would you still admire them for staying firm and committed to their beliefs? just wondering.

    That depends on various factors. Such as how open and honest they are in regards to their exact beliefs, intentions and goals as well as whether or not there's a perceived greater good at play.

    I suppose it's worth clarifying that in such a case admiration is not equal to support and I would stand opposed to evil intent. Though I do believe it possible to have a certain degree of respect for one's rivals and enemies, potentially mutual respect at that.

    I suppose, ultimately, I just prefer people being open, honest and consistent.
  • GrulshGrulsh Member, Alpha Two
    Solbranthius wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    Solbranthius wrote: »
    I'm not religious (though open to the idea of 'something' being out there) but I respect your commitment to your belief system, OP.

    It's an admirable trait, especially in an era where many individuals will cast aside even their supposedly firm beliefs on a whim just to get a perceived, momentary advantage.

    what if someone believed in something evil. would you still admire them for staying firm and committed to their beliefs? just wondering.

    That depends on various factors. Such as how open and honest they are in regards to their exact beliefs, intentions and goals as well as whether or not there's a perceived greater good at play.

    I suppose it's worth clarifying that in such a case admiration is not equal to support and I would stand opposed to evil intent. Though I do believe it possible to have a certain degree of respect for one's rivals and enemies, potentially mutual respect at that.

    I suppose, ultimately, I just prefer people being open, honest and consistent.

    I agree with this! I admire many people of other religions even. Not the religion itself, but the persons dedication and how devout they are to it. Again, I admire the person for the effort they put into standing for what they believe, not the belief itself. Free-will is amazing!
    ..."to lay down one's life for one's friends"
  • Wizard085Wizard085 Member, Alpha Two
    Religion should have an impact on the way the map and node progresses. Not in terms of buffs or anything but how the story plays out. Horizontal progression but certainly no vertical progression.
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  • RatlordRatlord Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    Solbranthius wrote: »
    I'm not religious (though open to the idea of 'something' being out there) but I respect your commitment to your belief system, OP.

    It's an admirable trait, especially in an era where many individuals will cast aside even their supposedly firm beliefs on a whim just to get a perceived, momentary advantage.

    what if someone believed in something evil. would you still admire them for staying firm and committed to their beliefs? just wondering.

    I think "evil" is subjective to a person's perception and experiences. I do not have a RL faith i believe in, but I find all religions extremely interesting and have my respect for each of them. Fantasy or not, I look forward to whatever Verra will offer and regardless of what it is, in the end its important to know that we all have a choice in what we decide to join or be. If i end up joining a religious node, they will have my full LARPing faith :D
    Like that guy looking forward to killing :blush:
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