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hi, first of all sorry for my bad english and myabe sorry for my bad emotions in this post but this is how i feel right now after returning to aoc after being dissapointed with game performance..

in november i made post about my problems with game performance: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/63743/im-tryin-so-hard-to-like-aoc-but/p1

you dont need to read that post tldr i was mad and i acepted fact that i had too big expectations. BUT...

i returned to aoc today after almost 2 months, many things was added to game but my experience is 100% same as in november... i have 4090, i have game instaled on m.2 disc generaly my pc runs everything butter smooth i play games with raytracing etc.. to make it short i have very powerfull pc and i have no problems in any very demanding game... but in aoc my ingame experience is TRAGEDY and im not even overreacting on this... i have problems to kill simple mob because game is stuttering (laging maybe) so much it makes my game unplayable... i even droped setings down and im using upscaling EVEN THO GAME IS NOT LOOKING THAT GOOD TO BE THIS DEMANDING !!!! but ok its alpha etc etc.. so i droped my setings. today after this pause i launched game ane everything game does, it does with stuttering ...
stuttering in character selection screen for no reason... but ok... i go in game... game is loading.. black screen for 1 minute then loading, loading ends , game is in lag for another minute... now textures STARTING to load... (what was loading if im loading alll textures after loading finishes????) ok textures loaded. i turn camera around.... lag.. ok world behind me wasnt loaded maybe so i stand on one place for minute and rotate camera so everything loads... everything is smooth so im loke ok lets go.. i make one step, lag.. turn around, lag.. jump, lag.. cast spell lag .. mobs are teleporting on me and i have realy hard time to kill lvl 3 mob .. i die.. go back want to loot my body.. nothing... not even eror message just presing F and nothing... out of nowhere im in fight with skeleton that just wasnt there milisecond ago but now is killing me ... because im in lag from trying to loot my body.. another death... with those deaths there is new loadings with new lags and texture loads... at this point im turning off game after 10 minutes mad af and dissapointed that my experience is same like in november.. thats cool there is new content but im asking why.. why you dont fix base game first... i knowe there is players that dont have this problems i talked with people about this but most of them have same thing in common.. they dont have powerfull pc so they play at reduced setings.. and im not even playing on native and cinematic anymore but i have same issues again no matter if i play native or upscaled.. i played game for 10 minutes . got mad af and i have zero desire to launch game again.. i want to play this game and i want to like it .. but everytime i launch it, im just dissapointed in performance.. and i want to repeat one thing... game is not even looking that good to be this demanding... i will try again in few months but since you are not focusing on these problems.. instead of asdding new content.. i allready know how it will go when i try again in few months and it makes me realy mad.. i want to love it but every gameplay is tragedy for me. i dont want to sht on game , i think it WILL BE good game. but there is something wrong at its core.

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GANKLORD

not gonna lie. im desperate for some dev reply.. i think its not normal what is happening to me. i bought 375 dollar pack and i was hyped to the roof for any info any livestream and even had A2 countdown as my browser homepage.... since alpha was released. i didnt even make it to lvl 15 on any character... because of these problems.. game plays so bad for me that its very frustrating to even thinking about "hey lets play aoc now" because i know what is going to happen.. its allways same, i start game get very dissapointed and frustrated and turn off game after 10 to 20 minutes with no desire to play. i cant even imagine being in dungeon/raid or pvp scenario with this performance.. and worst thing about this is that i feel im just screaming for help but no one listen or cares. soon there will be rogue class that i wanted to be my main but when rogue will release i will go in game again and i will turn it off again after 10 minutes because there is no focus to make game run better , there is focus of adding deserts etc.. please help me

nanfoodle

Ok this is not a game it's a test environment. In game development you add content and systems in layers and slowly. As you do so, you will get new bugs and performance problems. We just had a huge update. Now is the time to fix what's broken. As testers we report and IS fixes them. Once that's done the process starts all over again. Till one day, all systems and content is in the game and most bugs and performance issues are addressed. That's what an Alpha is. If you can't take that process come back some time in July or Aug as we get closer to bate. That's the polishing phase. When proformance will be the main focus. Or stick around and help us report these things as they pop up.

GANKLORD

nanfoodle wrote: »

Ok this is not a game it's a test environment. In game development you add content and systems in layers and slowly. As you do so, you will get new bugs and performance problems. We just had a huge update. Now is the time to fix what's broken. As testers we report and IS fixes them. Once that's done the process starts all over again. Till one day, all systems and content is in the game and most bugs and performance issues are addressed. That's what an Alpha is. If you can't take that process come back some time in July or Aug as we get closer to bate. That's the polishing phase. When proformance will be the main focus. Or stick around and help us report these things as they pop up.

you see the problem is. that my performance is SO BAD (5 stutters in 10 secconds!!!! when im fighting) that i cant even go in game and report bugs etc because im fighting with basic things like loading map or interacting with spells and mobs etc.... i understand its alpha, i understand there is bugs, but i have some problems with game that is not global to all players. and since other players dont have these problems then no one cares about my performance issues.. i see videos people playing dungeons etc and thats absolutely unreal for me because i have literally problem to kill one simple mob..

nanfoodle

GANKLORD wrote: »

nanfoodle wrote: »

Ok this is not a game it's a test environment. In game development you add content and systems in layers and slowly. As you do so, you will get new bugs and performance problems. We just had a huge update. Now is the time to fix what's broken. As testers we report and IS fixes them. Once that's done the process starts all over again. Till one day, all systems and content is in the game and most bugs and performance issues are addressed. That's what an Alpha is. If you can't take that process come back some time in July or Aug as we get closer to bate. That's the polishing phase. When proformance will be the main focus. Or stick around and help us report these things as they pop up.

you see the problem is. that my performance is SO BAD (5 stutters in 10 secconds!!!! when im fighting) that i cant even go in game and report bugs etc because im fighting with basic things like loading map or interacting with spells and mobs etc.... i understand its alpha, i understand there is bugs, but i have some problems with game that is not global to all players. and since other players dont have these problems then no one cares about my performance issues.. i see videos people playing dungeons etc and thats absolutely unreal for me because i have literally problem to kill one simple mob..

I get ya. After this update I can't even play the game. It 100% crashes windows and I have to hard reboot. I have turn on my crash logs and have played and crashed enough times to have six crash logs. I will be sending them today and will be waiting for IS team to figure it out. We are here for data, that's it. If we get some fun and learn the game. That's a side benefit. We are here helping build a game. Welcome to Alpha.

GANKLORD

but that doesnt explain why other players are able to play group content while im unable fo fight one mob alone somewhere on open field.. i need to fight in a way that i dont use camera movement or jumping or moving.. because if i do i get stutter and next seccond im dead.

nanfoodle

Have you clicked in the launcher known issues and looked to see if there is a common fix for your problems? If not there report.

GANKLORD

to be fair i didnt. because when i collect enough will to launch game because of my allready developed anxiety .. then im turning it off 10 minutes later furious and dissapointed.

GANKLORD

i just cant understand how people are able to make guilds , do group content , do all those node thing etc while im unable to progress to lvl 5..

nanfoodle

That's what testing is about. You can also go to the Discord under the altitude section and search the tech support channel to see if someone else with your problems bound effects. Also on this form there is the bug reporting Channel. Go through the different subjects that look like they might address your problem. Find out what they did to fix their problem. If you find that fixed your problem report it. If you don't find a fix for your problem report that on those channels. The staff is constantly reading and looking at those things and making adjustments or asking you for logs and telling you how to do that so that they can fix the game.

nanfoodle

GANKLORD wrote: »

i just cant understand how people are able to make guilds , do group content , do all those node thing etc while im unable to progress to lvl 5..

Probably guess most of them follow the steps that I listed above. I've had to come to the forms many times to find out how to fix a problem that I'm having that I can't play. It always gets adjusted and fixed either by me or by the Intrepid Studios team. Once again I'm in a situation where I can't play. I'm taking the steps as an alpha tester to get that fixed so that others don't have that problem when the game launches. That's what Alpha Testing is about.

SmileGurney

What is your PC spec?
Is your PC a "gaming" laptop by any chance?
What's your screen resolution?
Is the game installed on SSD?
What is your GPU driver version?
Have you tried to repair/reinstall?
Have you tried deleting the game's shader cache?

GANKLORD

i have night shift today so i will look in to this at night (i have alot free time at work) i want to thank you that you care to try to help me. because i feel realy desperate. my insane hype was changed to anxiety to even launch game.. im realy trying to love it (375 dollar pack.. im serious about aoc..) but i wasnt been able to do anything in game since alpha launched

now im scared because im waiting for rogue release and when it comes and i will be still fighting basic thing like movement and came rotation stutters... i mean my love isnt infinite

but still thank you for trying to help

nanfoodle

When you're in the game try turning off different settings lowering settings raising settings play with different combinations of your settings in game. See if something improves or gets worse. If you find something that actually improves your performance. Report that

GANKLORD

SmileGurney wrote: »

What is your PC spec?
Is your PC a "gaming" laptop by any chance?
What's your screen resolution?
Is the game installed on SSD?
What is your GPU driver version?
Have you tried to repair/reinstall?
Have you tried deleting the game's shader cache?

this all had been said before (some in first post that i linked and some in this post)
i have rtx 4090, 32gb ram game instaled on m.2. my pc is not the problem. i play ALOT of games im all about new tech and maxed graphics etc. ofc drivers are up to date and all those basic troubleshooting things was tried (like reinstal etc) i run every game maxed butter smooth. and i evn dialed down aoc setings but its same thing. i move my character and game stutters

GANKLORD

nanfoodle wrote: »

When you're in the game try turning off different settings lowering settings raising settings play with different combinations of your settings in game. See if something improves or gets worse. If you find something that actually improves your performance. Report that

i ofcourse tried that. weird thing is that i get +-same fps no matter if i play 4k native or upsacale.. same fps with frame gen same fps on cinematic or epic or high and stutters are there everytime no matter how i set it up... i was thinking if my internet could be problem since im on 5g BUT i play alot of valorant and that game is very demanding for stable connection and i have no problems in valorant) so i think 5g is not problem. it can be but it shouldnt be

nanfoodle

I would also check this part of the forums

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/alpha-two-bug-reporting

Read and look for people that have similar problems. See if they found fixes. Add your thoughts to posts that you can help IS see your having the same problem. They may reach out to you if they need more info.

nanfoodle

Here is the discord for bug issues you can search it as well for Solutions others may have found

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1299156202764107880

Noaani

My question - since you are talking about stuttering as your main issue - what is your ping to the server?

I ask this because you aren't actually giving proper data on things like FPS in Ashes or in other games (just the subjective qualifier of "smooth"), which suggests to me that you aren't measuring FPS you ae just going by feel. Client/server lag would explain your issues fairly well.

GANKLORD

Noaani wrote: »

My question - since you are talking about stuttering as your main issue - what is your ping to the server?

I ask this because you aren't actually giving proper data on things like FPS in Ashes or in other games (just the subjective qualifier of "smooth"), which suggests to me that you aren't measuring FPS you ae just going by feel. Client/server lag would explain your issues fairly well.

i dont know where to get that ping.. but still i play alot valorant and there are so many things happening in few milisec...it must be very demanding on connection and everything needs to be pixel perfect and i have no problem with internet in valorant or any other game (5G mobile connected to pc via usb).

i have 4090 i play basicaly 99% of games at native 4k at 144 fps (limited by monitor) (not counting raytracing on, if i have it then i use dlss quality set.). in aoc i get, on high to cinematic 50 to 80 native and 70 to 90 upscaled "quality" usualy dlss does much more than this... i play alot of games, i like to try new games and on this setup i have no problems with any of them. only with aoc..

Githal

The problem might be pretty simple. Run the game and check if its running on your Graphic card, or on your built in intel card. Since no matter how great your pc is, if it doesnt run the game on your Nvidea, then the game will be unplayable.

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