Jumping

Could you consider tying jumping in AoC to stamina, or otherwise find a way to prevent players from jumping constantly and allow it only when necessary? It doesn't look good when characters are jumping all the time like rabbits or monkeys. I can't even imagine what it will be like when there are 100+ people on screen and everyone is jumping… I don't think it should turn into a jumping simulator. what do you think ?

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Ludullu

Oh dang, now this is a throwback to a few years back. Shout out to @Neurotoxin

I personally don't care about the jumping, but do think that additional stamina expenditures will influence the game in a potentially bad way. Especially in fights around varier terrain.

excmatt

Then jumping should slow down your movement speed, so there would be some kind of penalty to prevent people from jumping around like they're out of their minds.
Anyway, sorry — I didn’t notice that there’s already a post about jumping from Neurotoxin. I’ve checked it out now and added my own comment.

Noaani

No, jumping is fine

excmatt

Noaani wrote: »

No, jumping is fine

Your post is pointless.
If you want to bring some value to the topic, you should explain why jumping is good as it is now. Otherwise, it's just a mindless opinion... Someone might say it's okay, someone might say it's not okay.

Noaani

excmatt wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

No, jumping is fine

Your post is pointless.
If you want to bring some value to the topic, you should explain why jumping is good as it is now. Otherwise, it's just a mindless opinion... Someone might say it's okay, someone might say it's not okay.

Jumping is fine as it is now because it has no real impact on combat, and some people enjoy it.

The only people that don't are people that think themselves to be the only thing of importance.

Xosimo

I'm surprised the game doesn't alread link jumping to stamina since the game focuses on pvp.

Noaani

Xosimo wrote: »

I'm surprised the game doesn't alread link jumping to stamina since the game focuses on pvp.

The game focusing on PvP has no direct effect on needing to tie jumping to stamina.

Azherae

Xosimo wrote: »

I'm surprised the game doesn't alread link jumping to stamina since the game focuses on pvp.

This would only happen if jumping would make you immune to Tripped or certain ground tremor attacks (and players basically don't have those at the moment).

SmileGurney

excmatt wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

No, jumping is fine

Your post is pointless.
If you want to bring some value to the topic, you should explain why jumping is good as it is now. Otherwise, it's just a mindless opinion... Someone might say it's okay, someone might say it's not okay.

So is yours in that case. His opinion, which I share is as valid as yours...only actually his is more valid. Jumping introduces a certain level of movetech which this game desperately needs to add to the combat depth. Your "style" concerns are totally secondary to gameplay.

excmatt

SmileGurney wrote: »

excmatt wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

No, jumping is fine

Your post is pointless.
If you want to bring some value to the topic, you should explain why jumping is good as it is now. Otherwise, it's just a mindless opinion... Someone might say it's okay, someone might say it's not okay.

So is yours in that case. His opinion, which I share is as valid as yours...only actually his is more valid. Jumping introduces a certain level of movetech which this game desperately needs to add to the combat depth. Your "style" concerns are totally secondary to gameplay.

"So that I don't repeat myself in two different threads about the same topic, please take a look at the latest posts in the thread:" Constant / Excessive Jumping, and Mitigation." We were discussing this exact issue there with Noaani, so feel free to respond there if anything from the recent posts is unclear to you. Thank you."

Vyllz

Hey excmatt, I get what you're saying, but honestly, I don't think it's a big deal if people jump around a bit.

Yeah, it might look a little funny when there's a lot of players, but it's also part of the natural chaos and energy of MMOs. Some players just like to move around a lot, especially when they're waiting or trying to stay alert. xd

Adding a stamina cost to jumping could work, but personally, I don't think it's worth restricting player freedom too much just because a few folks like to bunny hop. As long as it doesn't break gameplay or give an unfair advantage, it seems fine to let people move how they want.

Just my two cents, and hey, we’re still in Alpha, so if it ever becomes a real problem, Intrepid can always tweak it later!

TheDarkSorcerer

Amazing how people love to suck the fun out of MMOs by obsessing over stuff that has zero impact on gameplay, just because it's 'distracting' to them. Why not add a stamina penalty for walking too while you're at it?

daveywavey

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

Amazing how people love to suck the fun out of MMOs by obsessing over stuff that has zero impact on gameplay, just because it's 'distracting' to them. Why not add a stamina penalty for walking too while you're at it?

And there's no way you'd be able to jog/run across an entire continent. And what about food? And washing? And toilet breaks?

Or, as you say. We could just enjoy the game-world!

Sylverthane

I agree. The excessive jumping looks plain juvenile. Make the second and successive jumps drain stamina pool in an ever increasing amount. Problem solved.

Code wise, this is easy as pie.

Noaani

Sylverthane wrote: »

I agree. The excessive jumping looks plain juvenile. Make the second and successive jumps drain stamina pool in an ever increasing amount. Problem solved.

Code wise, this is easy as pie.

Since when does something that you think looks juvenile trump someone else having fun?

Just to be clear, I'm going to hold up a mirror for you here, so you can understand what you just said.

You said that you logged in to a game (or a test for a game, at least) and saw people having fun. Because you didn't like that fun and considered it juvenile (again, in a game), you want the developers of said game to make it so that people can not have that kind of fun.

You want to stop people having fun because you think that mixture of pixels in your game is juvenile.

Literally just a mirror showing you what you are saying.

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