Entity proportion size

Do you guys feel like the sizing of creatures, players, etc. Is off? Like they look as if certain parts of their bodies are too big or too small? The main example i could think of is the giants in the desert. Thoughts?

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GreatPhilisopher

yea everything scale is off , everything feels too small

Ludullu

To me it looks completely fine. I personally don't want oversized everything for no damn reason.

GreatPhilisopher

Ludullu wrote: »

To me it looks completely fine. I personally don't want oversized everything for no damn reason.

there is a reason every game makes things bigger than they are supposed to be so they dont look weird and out of place like ..well everything in ashes

Ludullu

GreatPhilisopher wrote: »

there is a reason every game makes things bigger than they are supposed to be so they dont look weird and out of place like ..well everything in ashes

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Settite

Ludullu wrote: »

GreatPhilisopher wrote: »

there is a reason every game makes things bigger than they are supposed to be so they dont look weird and out of place like ..well everything in ashes

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Would you say this giants proportions are good ? Particularly the head vs body size stands out most to me.

Link for video for reference. https://youtube.com/shorts/0qwXRvmF0Tg?si=9ZrqOpvA1iNRdhKn

Ludullu

Settite wrote: »

Would you say this giants proportions are good ? Particularly the head vs body size stands out most to me.

I don't remember, did they call their race "giants"? Cause we've got stuff like Tumok and I can definitely agree that THAT is a giant. While these bois are just overgrown dudes. Maaybe these are meant to be baby giants, at which point a bigger head would be very logical, cause that's exactly how babies are.

Settite

Ludullu wrote: »

Settite wrote: »

Would you say this giants proportions are good ? Particularly the head vs body size stands out most to me.

I don't remember, did they call their race "giants"? Cause we've got stuff like Tumok and I can definitely agree that THAT is a giant. While these bois are just overgrown dudes. Maaybe these are meant to be baby giants, at which point a bigger head would be very logical, cause that's exactly how babies are.

In the title of the video they are referred to as deadly giants so I'd assume they are meant to be interpreted as such. Otherwise that would be very misleading. I would also expect them to have greater muscle mass, generally thicker then they appear. They look almost malnourished.

Laetitian

Settite wrote: »

Ludullu wrote: »

GreatPhilisopher wrote: »

there is a reason every game makes things bigger than they are supposed to be so they dont look weird and out of place like ..well everything in ashes

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Would you say this giants proportions are good ? Particularly the head vs body size stands out most to me.

Link for video for reference. https://youtube.com/shorts/0qwXRvmF0Tg?si=9ZrqOpvA1iNRdhKn

It's clearly just meant to be a whimsical fantasy race. It's giving Roald Dahl. That's not your style, you like brutish "cool" fantasy. The 3d designer disagrees.
The part I don't understand is why you think you have some objective claim to what constitutes aesthetically interesting proportions.

If you want every entity in the game to be clearly coded as either "macho," "edgy," "beast," or "feminine," I think Black Desert was made for you. Personally, I think that style lacks personality.

Ludullu

Settite wrote: »

In the title of the video they are referred to as deadly giants so I'd assume they are meant to be interpreted as such.

You right, I didn't read the vid's name, cause I hate shorts' layout.

Settite wrote: »

Otherwise that would be very misleading.

I meaaaaaaaan. Intrepid is no stranger to some of their statements seeming reaaaaaal damn misleading.

Settite wrote: »

I would also expect them to have greater muscle mass, generally thicker then they appear. They look almost malnourished.

Here I just reference my previous stance

Ludullu wrote: »

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Settite

Laetitian wrote: »

Settite wrote: »

Ludullu wrote: »

GreatPhilisopher wrote: »

there is a reason every game makes things bigger than they are supposed to be so they dont look weird and out of place like ..well everything in ashes

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Would you say this giants proportions are good ? Particularly the head vs body size stands out most to me.

Link for video for reference. https://youtube.com/shorts/0qwXRvmF0Tg?si=9ZrqOpvA1iNRdhKn

It's clearly just meant to be a whimsical fantasy race. It's giving Roald Dahl. That's not your style, you like brutish "cool" fantasy. The 3d designer disagrees.
The part I don't understand is why you think you have some objective claim to what constitutes aesthetically interesting proportions.

If you want every entity in the game to be clearly coded as either "macho," "edgy," "beast," or "feminine," I think Black Desert was made for you. Personally, I think that style lacks personality.

Lol black desert definitely wasn't for me personally. Most of my mmo time was spent in ESO.

Also I don't believe i ever made an objective claim about how something should look. If it came off that way then my apologies. Just my own opinion on the matter. Since they request feedback it would be foolish not to provide it.

Ludullu wrote: »

Settite wrote: »

In the title of the video they are referred to as deadly giants so I'd assume they are meant to be interpreted as such.

You right, I didn't read the vid's name, cause I hate shorts' layout.

Settite wrote: »

Otherwise that would be very misleading.

I meaaaaaaaan. Intrepid is no stranger to some of their statements seeming reaaaaaal damn misleading.

Settite wrote: »

I would also expect them to have greater muscle mass, generally thicker then they appear. They look almost malnourished.

Here I just reference my previous stance

Ludullu wrote: »

Perception of weirdness is very subjective. To me, nothing in Ashes is weird (visuals-wise).

Fair

Aszkalon

GreatPhilisopher wrote: »

yea everything scale is off , everything feels too small

Steven made everything aside from himself bigger in the Game - so that he doesn't scare People with his mighty-huge C ... ... ... haracter.

Jokes aside.
Sometimes the "Hit-Boxes" felt a bit weird when i was fighting the Goblins in the VEEERY early, first Days of Phase 1. But i think that was probably everything just being a bit laggy.

I think People complained about something similar with huge Mobs like the Giants, though. But not everyone has this Problem ? Could it be Connection/Lag once again ?

TheDarkSorcerer

The body proportions in Ashes of Creation feel really off. Characters look boxy, like short rectangles with stubby legs, short torsos, and barely any neck. It’s not visually appealing. Most modern games feature more elongated, balanced body types with longer legs and torsos, which just look better on screen.

Ludullu

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

Most modern games feature more elongated, balanced body types with longer legs and torsos, which just look better on screen.

Of course a filthy elf would say this...

Boxy and stubby is the way!

Settite

Ludullu wrote: »

TheDarkSorcerer wrote: »

Most modern games feature more elongated, balanced body types with longer legs and torsos, which just look better on screen.

Of course a filthy elf would say this...

Boxy and stubby is the way!

Now hold on I don't like knife ears either but he's onto something. Let him cook 😇

daveywavey

If we're getting rid of giants, can we get rid of dwarfs too?!

Ludullu

daveywavey wrote: »

If we're getting rid of giants, can we get rid of dwarfs too?!

Dems r fitin' werds

Enigmatic Sage

daveywavey wrote: »

If we're getting rid of giants, can we get rid of dwarfs too?!

maybe they're trans-species and do not want to be mis-labelled. How could you be so insensitive lol

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