1 month of free membership seems like a small reward for supporting the game since the beginning

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

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Azherae

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

What tier of investment are you actually talking about here?

Which package did you buy that only gives 1 month of membership?

Enigmatic Sage

that's called entitlement there friend

October

Depending on how much you backed would determine how many months of additional subscription time you'd get. The $50 pledge came with two total months, increasing all the way to the $500 tier where you get lifetime subscription.

daveywavey

Lol yeah, buying in now isn't "from the start". There are backers here who have been here for years already.

SHAWDOWFAX

Makes sense.

unknownsystemerror

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

May 2017 OG are cringing at you.

Elohim_Venture

daveywavey wrote: »

Lol yeah, buying in now isn't "from the start". There are backers here who have been here for years already.

I understand that, but even so, joining Alpha 2 means being there from the very beginning. In any case, I'm not trying to compete over who got in first. I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Caww

That's kinda overlooking the reality of the situation which is for the last several months before an actual real launch, the game will be primarily finished and you will be receiving those months as a near-complete experience. The current alpha play testing is additional time some find entertaining as well and could be considered extra value from the package.

Noaani

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Then don't.

That said, if you are pushing to get more for that $100, you aren't actually wanting to support the game. You are wanting to purchase subscription time.

Undead Canuck

Just remember, you are getting all the months that you are helping test included. The longer the testing goes, the longer you are 'playing' for that $100.

Not to mention that A2 is not 'since the beginning' That was A0 and A1.

SmileGurney

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

Lol yeah, buying in now isn't "from the start". There are backers here who have been here for years already.

I understand that, but even so, joining Alpha 2 means being there from the very beginning. In any case, I'm not trying to compete over who got in first. I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Ok, bye.

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Elohim_Venture

SmileGurney wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

Lol yeah, buying in now isn't "from the start". There are backers here who have been here for years already.

I understand that, but even so, joining Alpha 2 means being there from the very beginning. In any case, I'm not trying to compete over who got in first. I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Ok, bye.

How sensitive some people in this community are, haha, I thought it was an adult community capable of dialogue.

Elohim_Venture

Undead Canuck wrote: »

Just remember, you are getting all the months that you are helping test included. The longer the testing goes, the longer you are 'playing' for that $100.

Not to mention that A2 is not 'since the beginning' That was A0 and A1.

I understand

Elohim_Venture

Noaani wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Then don't.

That said, if you are pushing to get more for that $100, you aren't actually wanting to support the game. You are wanting to purchase subscription time.

It's typical childish reasoning. It's logical that as a buyer, one expects to get benefits commensurate with what one pays.

Azherae

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Then don't.

That said, if you are pushing to get more for that $100, you aren't actually wanting to support the game. You are wanting to purchase subscription time.

It's typical childish reasoning. It's logical that as a buyer, one expects to get benefits commensurate with what one pays.

Can you clarify what you bought? Since people might not understand what you were buying.

In case it wasn't clear, you should be able to log in and test this weekend (and probably for at least another year).

Noaani

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Then don't.

That said, if you are pushing to get more for that $100, you aren't actually wanting to support the game. You are wanting to purchase subscription time.

It's typical childish reasoning. It's logical that as a buyer, one expects to get benefits commensurate with what one pays.

It is indeed logical, and everything I have seen from Intrepid - other than cosmetics - follow this basic reasoning.

This is why your complaint is essentially being mocked. None of us have seen any alpha or beta packs we consider to be less than acceptable.

If we look at the only pack being sold right now, it is $100. For that, you get $15 in in game currency, $15 in subscriptions time, and the remaining $70 is for late state alpha access and access to all beta tests. That is a good value already.

It also stands to reason that your comment about supporting this game "from the start" is just weird. I first gave money to Intrepid in 2018 (iirc), so anything you are doing now is not "from the start" it is after years of development when there is a solid assurance that the game will actually exist.

Nothing at all childish in that reply to you.

Volgaris

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

I think I bought in at 250 or something. I would have bought in during Kickstarter but I didn't know of it, life was busy, those guys won't have a sub, awesome for them. Even so buying into a game that isn't release comes with the risk that the worst case the game will NEVER release (I fully believe Ashes will release btw). For me it was a 250 dollar gamble in a way, but I look at it as supporting the game and the genre as a whole. If the game is successful, even if I don't like it, it's a win to me.

If I want anything extra from Intrepid beside a great game. I want to be able to extract my character's model from the game to print it. Also mobs and bosses too, that'd be great lol.

Elohim_Venture

Noaani wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Then don't.

That said, if you are pushing to get more for that $100, you aren't actually wanting to support the game. You are wanting to purchase subscription time.

It's typical childish reasoning. It's logical that as a buyer, one expects to get benefits commensurate with what one pays.

It is indeed logical, and everything I have seen from Intrepid - other than cosmetics - follow this basic reasoning.

This is why your complaint is essentially being mocked. None of us have seen any alpha or beta packs we consider to be less than acceptable.

If we look at the only pack being sold right now, it is $100. For that, you get $15 in in game currency, $15 in subscriptions time, and the remaining $70 is for late state alpha access and access to all beta tests. That is a good value already.

It also stands to reason that your comment about supporting this game "from the start" is just weird. I first gave money to Intrepid in 2018 (iirc), so anything you are doing now is not "from the start" it is after years of development when there is a solid assurance that the game will actually exist.

Nothing at all childish in that reply to you.

Yeah, I get it sounds fair to me.

They kind of took the whole 'from the beginning' thing a bit too literally. I get why it might be confusing — it’s a bit subjective. For me, getting a game during alpha or beta counts as being there from the start, since the real game only kicks off when it officially launches.
But anyway, we're getting sidetracked.

slyrioga

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

So you want a $105 value, plus the time in Alpha and Beta? If they plan on going with the $15 a month model. (The extra $15 is the cosmetic shop bonus)

Elohim_Venture

slyrioga wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

So you want a $105 value, plus the time in Alpha and Beta? If they plan on going with the $15 a month model. (The extra $15 is the cosmetic shop bonus)

Honestly, I feel like giving just a free month and a few cosmetics to people who backed the game during alpha is kind of underwhelming.
I mean, six months would feel way more fair.
But hey, it’s weird — seems like no one else really agrees with receiving more benefits.

Noaani

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

slyrioga wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

Just as the title says, only 1 free month of membership when the game officially launches doesn’t seem like a proper “thank you” for those players who took a chance on this project from the start.
6 months would be a more reasonable gesture

So you want a $105 value, plus the time in Alpha and Beta? If they plan on going with the $15 a month model. (The extra $15 is the cosmetic shop bonus)

Honestly, I feel like giving just a free month and a few cosmetics to people who backed the game during alpha is kind of underwhelming.
I mean, six months would feel way more fair.
But hey, it’s weird — seems like no one else really agrees with receiving more benefits.

It isn't that people don't want more, it is that people want the game to succeed.

If they start bundling $90 worth of subscription time with $100 bundles, that would be bad.

daveywavey

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

But hey, it’s weird — seems like no one else really agrees with receiving more benefits.

I got what I paid for. I knew what I was getting when I paid, and so I don't expect more than that.

That's pretty much all there is to it, for me. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with what's on offer.

Vyllz

I totally understand where you're coming from, it’s natural to want a more generous reward for early support. But I think it’s important to remember that backing Ashes of Creation from the beginning has always been more about helping build the game, not just buying early perks.

The one month of free sub isn’t meant to “pay you back” it’s just a symbolic gesture on top of everything else that early supporters already got: exclusive cosmetics, lifetime discounts, unique titles, Alpha/Beta access, and most importantly, a voice in shaping the game through feedback during development.

Intrepid isn’t a big publisher with billions to spare. They’re doing something incredibly rare, building a true MMORPG from the ground up without pay-to-win, with no publisher breathing down their necks. Every dollar has gone into making Ashes what it is today.

So yeah, while six months might feel nicer, I’d argue that the real “thank you” is the game itself, and the chance to say you were part of it from the beginning. That’s something money can’t really buy.

nanfoodle

I only read the OP a while ago. I thought this thread would die out. We don't need a privileged attitude. We don't deserve anything but what we paid for up frount. Offer was given and we paid it. I have gotten dozens of hours of game play and got to give feedback. All I want is what I paid for. I'm tired of the me me me culture that seems to be brewing everywhere. This is not about housing and access to meals and medial needs. This is about a hobby and we should leave this game in the hands of the people running their business. We don't know their finacal needs that will keep this game going.

Xeeg

nanfoodle wrote: »

I only read the OP a while ago. I thought this thread would die out. We don't need a privileged attitude. We don't deserve anything but what we paid for up frount. Offer was given and we paid it. I have gotten dozens of hours of game play and got to give feedback. All I want is what I paid for. I'm tired of the me me me culture that seems to be brewing everywhere. This is not about housing and access to meals and medial needs. This is about a hobby and we should leave this game in the hands of the people running their business. We don't know their finacal needs that will keep this game going.

I thought this thread would die out too! What keeps happening, who is ressurecting it??!?!?!?!

P.S: 6 months free was the $250 package buyin.

SmileGurney

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

SmileGurney wrote: »

Elohim_Venture wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

Lol yeah, buying in now isn't "from the start". There are backers here who have been here for years already.

I understand that, but even so, joining Alpha 2 means being there from the very beginning. In any case, I'm not trying to compete over who got in first. I'm simply pointing out that paying $100 to support the game at such an early stage, like Alpha 2, and only receiving one free month at launch feels like a small return.

Ok, bye.

How sensitive some people in this community are, haha, I thought it was an adult community capable of dialogue.

Sensitive? It's not me complaining that I don't get more for $100, when in fact we get years long access to a game in active development. Read the small print before you buy.

Why this argument keeps coming up? You are not forced to put your money on a line and there is plenty of finished games out there.

Hinotori

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