Griefing should not be a thing in this game

It is really lame when you kill a certain community member over and over for the shitty actions that they have taken in the past, and then they are able to go to a customer support ticket and complain about you griefing them. Then you get timed out.

Instead, the complainer should have game mechanics to ignore the offending party, and the corruption system should be sufficient punishment for the griefer. No GM moderation needed.

Like if you agree. Comment if you don’t, and “I’ll put a jihad on you too.”

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Volgaire

Nagash wrote: »

Autumnleaf wrote: »

Well if I want to kill someone everytime I see them it should be ok, but I also have to deal with the corruption that follows.

If that's how the game is designed and meant to be playing them you are allowed to do so

Excatly, people might not like getting hunted and killed but the game allows it for a reason, if a player ever got punished for hunting a single player that would be ridiculous.

Dygz

These days we can stream/record our gameplay.
If GM moderation seems warranted, we at least have evidence to share for deliberation.

sikuba

I don't think GM intervention will be much of an issue, to be honest. Perhaps there will be an instance of this occasionally, but that sort of camping will be absurdly difficult and dangerous to pull off.

There are definitely going to be a lot of repeated killings, especially over certain resources. However, corruption should, for the most part, deter the mindless killing of individuals, assuming the "victims" are neither participating in PvP nor contesting desirable resources. After all, the larger the level gap, the more corruption you gain. The better the gear you have, the more you have to lose if you die.

Killing someone repeatedly and consistently usually means there is likely a sizable number(players)/level/gear gap between you. This means you are painting a shiny target on your back for Bounty Hunters and anyone else who might notice you and your "habits". And if you can track someone down and hunt them to that degree, someone can easily do the same for you, or at least to the same person in order to find you.

But the main reason that I don't believe that griefing will be as easy as you might think is that your corruption debuff will just end up stacking too high to keep someone hostage in-game for hours on end like you might do in other games. Despite knowing how obsessive people can be in doing this, I genuinely believe that it just won't be worth the effort.

OrcLuck

Dying isn't the problem. Its having a long term time investment get ruined that's the problem.

I think dungeons will be sweaty experiences because teams fighting over content will have high stakes pvp, and if you're hurt from the last trash mob cycle, you're gonna be sweating bullets.

At that point, its not griefing, its literally some of the best content of the game.

What I absolutely don't want is people somehow finding a way of training mobs through a dungeon and wiping people though. If that sort of thing is possible people will do it, and also avoid the corruption system.

Its not exactly easy to solve that sort of griefing. If someone from an opposing group does it, and they some how drop aggro and the mobs swap onto you, and then their group flags to attack you, you're going to be upset.

Exciplex

This only partially addresses your post, but Lineage 2 handled toxic behavior a really simple way.

If you murder someone without them 'flagging up' you gain karma. The more Karma you have, the higher the chance you drop a piece of armor or weapon when you die.

the larger the disparity in level of the person you unjustly murder, the more karma you get.

Incentives for people to hunt trolls + significant Penalties for significant trolls.

Its a player managed PVP system that still allows complete freedom but with consequences for clearly bad actors.

Jubilum

Autumnleaf wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Autumnleaf wrote: »

Well if I want to kill someone everytime I see them it should be ok, but I also have to deal with the corruption that follows.

If that's how the game is designed and meant to be playing them you are allowed to do so

Excatly, people might not like getting hunted and killed but the game allows it for a reason, if a player ever got punished for hunting a single player that would be ridiculous.

This is exactly the attitude that concerns me about this game But, I will continue the fight for what is right. I have some misguided faith in humanity that people still have the ability to respect each other.

Nagash

Jubilum wrote: »

Autumnleaf wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Autumnleaf wrote: »

Well if I want to kill someone everytime I see them it should be ok, but I also have to deal with the corruption that follows.

If that's how the game is designed and meant to be playing them you are allowed to do so

Excatly, people might not like getting hunted and killed but the game allows it for a reason, if a player ever got punished for hunting a single player that would be ridiculous.

This is exactly the attitude that concerns me about this game But, I will continue the fight for what is right. I have some misguided faith in humanity that people still have the ability to respect each other.

The problem with that is the game allows you to kill players but it does have a way to punish you as well but people will always find ways around it

Atama

Exciplex wrote: »

This only partially addresses your post, but Lineage 2 handled toxic behavior a really simple way.

If you murder someone without them 'flagging up' you gain karma. The more Karma you have, the higher the chance you drop a piece of armor or weapon when you die.

the larger the disparity in level of the person you unjustly murder, the more karma you get.

Incentives for people to hunt trolls + significant Penalties for significant trolls.

Its a player managed PVP system that still allows complete freedom but with consequences for clearly bad actors.

That’s very close to the corruption system in Ashes, though it sounds less harsh. AoC will have stronger penalties.

ivegotnolife

Just don't be shit at the game so no one will have the balls to grief you. Or get some mates to come in and make sure you aren't griefed 24/7.

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Nagash

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

I was thinking the same thing

Karthos

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

Nagash

Karthos wrote: »

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

who ever could you mean ^^

Karthos

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

who ever could you mean ^^

The one armed man!

unknown

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Nagash

Karthos wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

who ever could you mean ^^

The one armed man!

I was thinking it was the man with no name

Karthos

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

who ever could you mean ^^

The one armed man!

I was thinking it was the man with no name

He could have both no name and one arm

Nagash

Karthos wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Hyyez wrote: »

Why even play a open world PVP game then????

Because regardless of the fact it's a PvP game, people feel they are entitled to have accommodations made for them.

It's why you see so many "good idea fairies" hovering around, making "suggestions".

who ever could you mean ^^

The one armed man!

I was thinking it was the man with no name

He could have both no name and one arm

perhaps

tugowar

Hyyez wrote: »

was gonna respond but idc enough, obviously OP is looking forward to the wrong game.

Clearly missed my point. Don’t feel bad though. Reading comprehension is hard.

poisonz

trying to give a fudge but i can't find any @tugowar

least i have cheesecake

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