Of the 3 Crafting Professions

There are 3 separate crafts: Gatherer, Processor, and Artisan. Of the three, only the Artisan gets to have their name attached to the end product, but without the other two crafting professions that would not have been possible. How do you give credit to Gatherers and Processors?

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amuria

neomir wrote: »

All of these records in the hall of fame initiated with a global announcement.

Hopefully these can be turned off or playing at the start of a server will include a rain of announcements.

Azryil

I think server wide announcements should reserved for big achievements not every little realm first. I played a game that had an announcement the first time anything was uncovered on the server, this included low tier weapons, it was a lot of irrelevant spam.

Atama

arzosah wrote: »

If players were aloud to name their own creations there would have to be heavy word filters to prevent players from naming everything a string of expletives.

Indeed, ‘tis a fine blade worthy of song. Nigh unbreakable, possessing the keenest edge, and of perfect balance. The runes inscribed herein grant it the ability to pierce illusions, burn evil at a touch, and to warn of eminent danger. Truly a sword of kings, one that may be in the memory of generations, a legend spoken of in hushed tones amongst an awed populace who see it as a symbol of hope and a promise that whatever may threaten them, there is a talisman to rally to, a weapon of glory.

Yet, I myself cannot bear to wield the blade known as Noodlewang. Such a shame.

T Elf

atama wrote: »

arzosah wrote: »

If players were aloud to name their own creations there would have to be heavy word filters to prevent players from naming everything a string of expletives.

Indeed, ‘tis a fine blade worthy of song. Nigh unbreakable, possessing the keenest edge, and of perfect balance. The runes inscribed herein grant it the ability to pierce illusions, burn evil at a touch, and to warn of eminent danger. Truly a sword of kings, one that may be in the memory of generations, a legend spoken of in hushed tones amongst an awed populace who see it as a symbol of hope and a promise that whatever may threaten them, there is a talisman to rally to, a weapon of glory.

Yet, I myself cannot bear to wield the blade known as Noodlewang. Such a shame.

LOL

#make a LOL button

Azathoth

If I were a master craftsman and had the option to name my product, I would consider implementing suggestions (or names) from gatherer/processor characters for a discount. Be like, yeah I'll say it's made with Kraft Cheese, but Kraft needs to give me a discount.

Ravudha

I don't feel gatherers and processors need their name attached to things. They will be on people's #1 speed dial for their unique services, and that is its own form of recognition.

Varkun

When I said a marker for the gatherer of the materials or a mark for the processor I was not saying it should be on the final product that would make no sense at all as many of you have pointed out. What I was referring to was a gatherers/processors mark that would allow someone who has that material on sold to them say by a third party being able to seek out the original harvester/processor. Now you may think why bother with mundane materials, but for those truly rare materials that only a few may be able to gather/process it may very well be worth the effort to seek them out and perhaps obtain them at a no doubt cheaper price.

Wouldnt you like to know who created that star fire mithril bar as there are only 5 people in the entire world who have learned how to smelt them, you think the merchant is going to tell you who it is and lose that margin they get. But with a makers mark you might be able to figure out where this person is and try to seek them out you know put some of the RP back into MMORPG.

Why should it just be the crafter who gets people seeking them out to craft that rare item the gatherer/processor should be equally sought out for their skills too. To me, it just gives more opportunity for interactions between people gathers/processors and crafters if the source of the material is known. But I will say again once the material is on refined/crafted the maker's mark will be replaced with the new maker's name.

Thats just my opinion anyway and my logic behind it.

Valentine

elf wrote: »

Actually, I didn't in any way think the final product would have all the contributor's names.
And I guess the reward has to be just the coin you receive for your hard work, while the maker of the final product gets the glory. If I was in another game, I would be doing most all the work, so getting my name on the product was automatic. I suppose selling my raws or my processed materials at a stall will be the closest to being able to have name recognition.

You can have people say on their stalls that they were supplied by your mining guild. And get a horrible reputation for strong-arming other miners or poor safety standards causing people to boycott that stall, ifya wanna be super roleplaying~

Ravudha

@Varkun Ah ok, I agree it'd be very cool to be able to trace a high-end item to its source, like scouring the land for a master artisan.

One hurdle I could see with that is players will naturally use chat and discord to find out such things, so the way the 'mark' is implemented would need to almost be more convenient than going through those meta communication channels.

It's hard to imagine how the mark could be implemented. Maybe the item has a description that eludes to where it was obtained - E.g. "The Behemoth's scale glistens in the moonlight. Aside from specks of red clay and moss it looks to be in pristine condition", so you'd wonder where in the world you find red clay and moss. *shrug*

Viymjr

amuria wrote: »

neomir wrote: »

All of these records in the hall of fame initiated with a global announcement.

Hopefully these can be turned off or playing at the start of a server will include a rain of announcements.

Oh totally agree with an option to switch them off as they could be annoying and I would not want to see a big splash announcement across the screen, maybe just something in chat so people can react, give people something else to chat about. Maybe some sort of local effect/fanfare so you personally get recognition.

T Elf

I agree with @neomir that I would rather see it in chat with the option to turn it off, but I enjoy seeing people's firsts. Sure there will be a lot at the very beginning but it will taper off.

Damokles

elf wrote: »

I agree with @neomir that I would rather see it in chat with the option to turn it off, but I enjoy seeing people's firsts. Sure there will be a lot at the very beginning but it will taper off.

They could make it that it was only for certain special things, like the first time someone managed an epic world event or a certain difficulty of a raid/dungeon. They had these events in Wow Classic, BC and WotLK where a npc spoke in the chat and told everyone that someone cleared a certain raid. They could do that and then make it just for the very first time.

Varkun

To see world firsts would be ok I would not mind it but I could understand how it could annoy some people seeing all that spam in their chat. As an alternative what if such world firsts were recorded in the library of any level 3 or above scientific node so anyone who wanted to could go and view them at any time.

Lyiat

Damokles wrote: »

elf wrote: »

I agree with @neomir that I would rather see it in chat with the option to turn it off, but I enjoy seeing people's firsts. Sure there will be a lot at the very beginning but it will taper off.

They could make it that it was only for certain special things, like the first time someone managed an epic world event or a certain difficulty of a raid/dungeon. They had these events in Wow Classic, BC and WotLK where a npc spoke in the chat and told everyone that someone cleared a certain raid. They could do that and then make it just for the very first time.

Varkun wrote: »

To see world firsts would be ok I would not mind it but I could understand how it could annoy some people seeing all that spam in their chat. As an alternative what if such world firsts were recorded in the library of any level 3 or above scientific node so anyone who wanted to could go and view them at any time.

I think you two should read a bit about Trophy Park.

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes#Trophy_park

Varkun

So does that mean if/when a node is destroyed the trophy park goes with it to be lost forever?
Not really a permanent record unless it comes back if the node ever levels again.

Lyiat

Varkun wrote: »

So does that mean if/when a node is destroyed the trophy park goes with it to be lost forever?
Not really a permanent record unless it comes back if the node ever levels again.

Nothing in Ashes of Creation is permanent. If a node is destroyed, the library in it will burn. I would assume the books and information within it will be gone as well, as the players need to create it.

Viymjr

I only ever meant when something was achieved across the server for the very first time. I did not mean each and every time someone achieves something, that would be bloody annoying

Volgaire

The one who makes the weapon is the artisan, the 2 other professions get compensation for the services and it should be enough

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