The New Necromancer in Elder Scrolls Online, is the necromancer we need in AoC xD

Damokles

Here is a video about the class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiBcuPhOXY

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Hexcat

damokles wrote: »

Here is a video about the class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiBcuPhOXY

Don't make a mistake, this necromancer class looks amazing but I think that's the ESO Necromancer that fits THAT world fantasy, lore and mechanics, but I expect the necromancer in AOC to be a very specific type of necromancer, after all, didn't we support this project because we have enough of seeing very similar classes with similar game mechanics in most games?

Greed94

lumbermark wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

Here is a video about the class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiBcuPhOXY

Don't make a mistake, this necromancer class looks amazing but I think that's the ESO Necromancer that fits THAT world fantasy, lore and mechanics, but I expect the necromancer in AOC to be a very specific type of necromancer, after all, didn't we support this project because we have enough of seeing very similar classes with similar game mechanics in most games?

I agree, but I do like the rpg elements added like the guards putting a bounty on you for using necromancy in cities.

Damokles

@lumbermark
I was more interested in the mechanical design of the necromancer to be honest with you

Switching between healing and damaging, reviving teammates and turning enemies into bombs in the same moment.
Soulmagic for healing while necromancy is the damaging aspect etc.
That sounds really interesting to me and I hope that IS will do something in that direction with the necromancer^^

theonegargoyle

Goddamn !!!

That is literally everything I would like to see in the necromancer in AoC !

Well .... including his point about a permanent pet ....

georgeblack

Eso combat feels empty without impact and the animations are just fluff. The colosus for exame on the video is a target ground AoE that deals X dmg for 3 seconds. The arms of the summon are not real, cannot be blocked or targeted of anything.
The abilities you see are mostly weak with the exception of 4/30.
Anything from ESO should be an example to avoid.

A necromancer should be a class of curses and summoning REAL pets. Not this.
I do play ESO for the past 5 years reason being the good graphics, however the game is:
Boring ez PvE
Boring ez single player
Exclusivelly Instanced PvP with only 5 solid builds out of the 50 or so possible.

Damokles

@georgeblack
I didnt mean a one to one translation here.
What i wanted was the playstile of freely switching between dealing damage and healing/support depending on your chosen augmentation.
And what do you mean with real pets? Because a consistent horde of adds is pretty busted tbh. GW1 had a necro that could summon nearly consistent adds, leading them to be extremely op in PvE. Even 2-3 consistent pets are pretty much op. The necro would never have to fear being physically attacked by npcs.

I think the best idea would be that Necros are able to summon smaller amounts of weak and non-consistent adds that either autoattack or do one specific task (like exploding and slowing enemies, infecting them with a disease, heal/buff allies etc).

We have a really interesting summoner/necro thread here somewhere and you should really look into it, there are some really cool ideas!

Joseline

As for summoners in general, I hope we get things like this Necromancer as well as some summoners that go 2v1 with only 1 summon that they keep with them and some that just summon a creature for a single skill that despawn right after the skill finished

By the amount of classes we have there is a lot of potential variety, reaching from classes that summon hordes of weak minions to summoners that build their entire kit around a single summon and perhaps enchant this one fruther with skills as well as some summoners that just "open a gate to hell", let a death-train run through the battle field that vanishes seconds after into another gate that opened simulatneously

The Necromancer in the video looks like your basic conjurer in most TES games. Not exactly the same but nothing too special either.. well expect that he seems to be viable this time
TES always had this issue of "really cool looking stuff thats actually just traight up boring". You either like TES because of anything but the combat system or you just straight up dont like TES. Elsweyr isnt an exception to this

Taking inspiration from a TES build is fine, taking inspiration from a TES combat mechanic is not

zabild

I am so stoked for necromancer I like eso necro but I want something different for aoc I think it should be a lot of debuffs and dot damage as well I think they should be empowered or heavily buffed in war surrounded by death as well I think they should be able to have a few permanent minions that change based off of what the corpse it was i.e. reanimate a orc this minion is gonna have a higher str stat or an elf they will have higher int. People will seek out boss monsters to reanimate in order to have a strong minion as well they will have to protect said minion or it will be a massive loss for them as well instead of skeleton 1 or 2 I think based off of what was raised should dictate the name

George_Black

I want nothing from ESO.

Wandering Mist

George Black wrote: »

I want nothing from ESO.

Why? Just because it's ESO? I'll never understand this kind of attitude, that just because a mechanic was used in a certain game you don't want to use that mechanic.

Damokles

George Black wrote: »

I want nothing from ESO.

🤷‍♂️

Nagash

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

voidshadow

Where's our friendly neighborhood skeleton when we need him?

Wandering Mist

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

Nagash

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

Damokles

Nagash wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

The thing about Necros in GW1 was that they were pretty much untouchable with the right setup in PvE and PvP. xD (Same could be said about the Ritualist though ;D)

Nagash

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

The thing about Necros in GW1 was that they were pretty much untouchable with the right setup in PvE and PvP. xD (Same could be said about the Ritualist though ;D)

to be fair guild wars never had the best balance

Damokles

Nagash wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

The thing about Necros in GW1 was that they were pretty much untouchable with the right setup in PvE and PvP. xD (Same could be said about the Ritualist though ;D)

to be fair guild wars never had the best balance

*Mesmer PvP flashbacks*

Wandering Mist

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

The thing about Necros in GW1 was that they were pretty much untouchable with the right setup in PvE and PvP. xD (Same could be said about the Ritualist though ;D)

to be fair guild wars never had the best balance

*Mesmer PvP flashbacks*

What do you mean? Mesmers we're totally balanced!! Being able to completely shut down any enemy you like in PvP was totally fair

Damokles

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I do like corpse mechanics and the fact you can get in trouble for doing necromancy, but I think the summoning is just too limiting. When I think of necromancers I think of hordes of weak undead that can be buffed or a small group of armoured wraiths. People always seem to forget that necromancers are about raising the dead first and everything else is a second thought.

Guildwars 1 had this down to a tee. You could literally have a horde of undead following you, it was great.

I did love guild wars 1 same as diablo 3 and grim dawns necromancers shame MMOs never do summoners justice

The thing about Necros in GW1 was that they were pretty much untouchable with the right setup in PvE and PvP. xD (Same could be said about the Ritualist though ;D)

to be fair guild wars never had the best balance

*Mesmer PvP flashbacks*

What do you mean? Mesmers we're totally balanced!! Being able to completely shut down any enemy you like in PvP was totally fair

Just like the elementalists, who could one-shot anything with two spells ;D

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