How far behind are we actually?

It seems to me that for such a core system as caravans to only be to the point where a very linear display example is possible (one that might have also been shared at gamescon_...it seems to me that we're in for quite a wait.

Obviously that isn't good news, however we aren't in this for good news, we're in this for a game. Development has ups and downs, and we've clearly heard absolutely very little in terms of how the development is going. I don't know about you, but Crowfall never made me feel like I was being deceived.

They earnestly showed the very ugly early workings of the game and their improvisations with the play tests to get people something somewhat fun to test, while they worked on stuff.

I very much find that appealing. Whether or not you wish backers to sign an NDA or not to keep as much of the ugliness mum to your future buyers I don't mind, but sitting here twiddling my thumbs completely in the blind, isn't something I feel shows that I've been appreciated in the leap I took to help fund the game.

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syl

@bmwpower603 We have been with the game for quite some time now. APOC is free so why not try it. It's good to see some progress on the systems.

If you want to test the other MMO systems besides combat, I'd go for Alpha-1 Alpha-2 (edit: 17th aug 2019 2:34PMCEST).

bmwpower603

syl wrote: »

@bmwpower603 We have been with the game for quite some time now. APOC is free so why not try it. It's good to see some progress on the systems.

If you want to test the other MMO systems besides combat, I'd go for Alpha-1.

Alpha 1 is closed beta? I only see alpha 2 available in packages to purchase.

mozsta69

Im also betting on a 2021 release.
What Im really hoping to see is at least in the next 6-8 months some alpha/beta (whatever you want to call it) testing on MMO world mechanics. How ever simple they may be.

syl

I'm sorry, I meant Alpha-2, since it's up for grabs at the moment.

Azathoth

We are infinitely behind. Everyday i am not playing we are 2 more days behind. At this point I'm pretty sure IS plans on never* releasing like a certain civilian of space game.

Or, we're not behind at all because we all want the game to be released when it is finished and polished. Whichever.

*edit

bmwpower603

mozsta69 wrote: »

Im also betting on a 2021 release.
What Im really hoping to see is at least in the next 6-8 months some alpha/beta (whatever you want to call it) testing on MMO world mechanics. How ever simple they may be.

It better not be 2021.. December 2020 at the latest would be acceptable.
I just bought an i9 9900k and rtx 2080ti. And that will probably be outdated by 2021!!!

Magic Man

bmwpower603 wrote: »

mozsta69 wrote: »

Im also betting on a 2021 release.
What Im really hoping to see is at least in the next 6-8 months some alpha/beta (whatever you want to call it) testing on MMO world mechanics. How ever simple they may be.

It better not be 2021.. December 2020 at the latest would be acceptable.
I just bought an i9 9900k and rtx 2080ti. And that will probably be outdated by 2021!!!

Although I agree that the game should be here around December 2020, I believe 2080ti won't be outdated by 2021. It will remain to be one of the best. In 2 years 1070ti might be outdated. Besides Intrepid aims their game for medium-high end computers. In the podcast Q&A yesterday, Steven said ' Our last benchmark was 80fps at EPIC settings with a GTX 960' regarding the question about MMO fps so you've nothing to worry about.

bmwpower603

Magic Man wrote: »

bmwpower603 wrote: »

mozsta69 wrote: »

Im also betting on a 2021 release.
What Im really hoping to see is at least in the next 6-8 months some alpha/beta (whatever you want to call it) testing on MMO world mechanics. How ever simple they may be.

It better not be 2021.. December 2020 at the latest would be acceptable.
I just bought an i9 9900k and rtx 2080ti. And that will probably be outdated by 2021!!!

Although I agree that the game should be here around December 2020, I believe 2080ti won't be outdated by 2021. It will remain to be one of the best. In 2 years 1070ti might be outdated. Besides Intrepid aims their game for medium-high end computers. In the podcast Q&A yesterday, Steven said ' Our last benchmark was 80fps at EPIC settings with a GTX 960' regarding the question about MMO fps so you've nothing to worry about.

That is hard to believe that 80fps is possible with that card. The game looks better than any mmo to date. A high end graphics card will be necessary especially with raiding/ high populated areas.

Wandering Mist

bmwpower603 wrote: »

Magic Man wrote: »

bmwpower603 wrote: »

mozsta69 wrote: »

Im also betting on a 2021 release.
What Im really hoping to see is at least in the next 6-8 months some alpha/beta (whatever you want to call it) testing on MMO world mechanics. How ever simple they may be.

It better not be 2021.. December 2020 at the latest would be acceptable.
I just bought an i9 9900k and rtx 2080ti. And that will probably be outdated by 2021!!!

Although I agree that the game should be here around December 2020, I believe 2080ti won't be outdated by 2021. It will remain to be one of the best. In 2 years 1070ti might be outdated. Besides Intrepid aims their game for medium-high end computers. In the podcast Q&A yesterday, Steven said ' Our last benchmark was 80fps at EPIC settings with a GTX 960' regarding the question about MMO fps so you've nothing to worry about.

That is hard to believe that 80fps is possible with that card. The game looks better than any mmo to date. A high end graphics card will be necessary especially with raiding/ high populated areas.

I'm fine with that as long as it is stable. There's nothing worse than trying to play with constant lag spikes and fps drops.

Nagash

it's just a shame that with the amount of time they are are going to take that they couldn't find a way to self publish in EU

swooxie

Nagash wrote: »

it's just a shame that with the amount of time they are are going to take that they couldn't find a way to self publish in EU

If the backend issue was only found earlier

Nagash

swooxie wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

it's just a shame that with the amount of time they are are going to take that they couldn't find a way to self publish in EU

If the backend issue was only found earlier

yeah

bmwpower603

The question you need to ask your self. Is, when will APOC alpha 1 testing begin? Once you have that. You can get an estimate on the MMO. ( Once the APOC alpha 1 testing starts, roughly a year later will come the AoC testing phases)

Hopefully APOC alpha 1 comes before Christmas. I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t.

CR0WN

I've come to the realization that the sad reality of MMORPGs and OARPGs is that most of them shouldn't really be judged or fully enjoyed until about 2-3 years post release. Unfortunately most games release as soon as possible for earnings as well as demand from the starved community and thus usually are way less polished and have less content then they eventually end up being. It seems like almost every MMORPG is way better 2-3 years down the line but usually almost dead as we jump to the next rushed project.

That is why I really hope they take their time ultimately, because usually whatever the reception is at launch is what people remember. (D3 is also a good non-MMO example, game has basically been redone 3 times and is a well polished game now, but most players can only remember the horrible launch).

voidshadow

Rejoice peeps! Apoc testing will be live and persistent starting September 24th. Hopefully its uphill and steady progress from here.

bmwpower603

Figures. My alienware R9 won’t arrive until October 16th.

Nagash

voidshadow wrote: »

Rejoice peeps! Apoc testing will be live and persistent starting September 24th. Hopefully its uphill and steady progress from here.

Steven did say castle siege was coming "very soon" which is a good sign

OrcLuck

Its definitely good news, as far as I'm aware it means that so far their solutions are working, lets hope that this is very good news.

BlackBrony

A later delay gives time to people to play Wow Classic and burn that nostalgia.
Also we have Archeage Unchained coming, giving people to scratch that itch as well.
By the time AoC comes it will be a fresh game, working properly and fleshed out.

These days first impressions are all that matters, so it's better to have a later release with a working game. I'd rather wait for them to have everything really thought out and enjoy the game.
We have been waiting years for a game, waiting a bit more won't kill us.

leamese

I'm expecting it to launch in 2020, in Q3 or Q4. I'm a little bummed About timing..

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