About muling/twinking/metagaming/powergaming

1) Muling - using an alt to drop gold/gear/items in a safe location (namely your house/apartment or empty area) and logging in with your main to pick up 'said item to empower that character. Since there are no "dungeon masters" this would be more easily accomplished...is it not.

2) Twinking - dropping Black Scale Imperator with one character to be picked up by a brand new character /you like better/, or am I mistaken?

3) Metagaming - using out-of-character knowledge as a weapon to destroy someone in-character. Since there are no dedicated roleplay servers this would be a tad more difficult. Here on AoC, they will just either kill you in town, in the wilderness, or both. One vs one, group vs one, or group vs group.

4) Powergaming - all of the above into one Main.

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Caeryl

ZephronRedblade wrote: »

Actually the point of the thread was already taken in before I edited the post to a select group of audience. Thanks for your expertise though.

Ok except you didn’t make any point? You think common MMO gameplay patterns are.. what? Ruining RP?

ZephronRedblade

Did you read the original post before the edit?

Noaani

ZephronRedblade wrote: »

Did you read the original post before the edit?

I did. It still didn't actually say what the point you wanted to make was, not why you consider each of those things to be negative.

Honestly, I'm still not sure why.

Caderley

I think, provided there is no tool or mechanism for automatically grouping strangers, the community would pretty much "police" itself. In that, if you act like a dick people won't want to play with you so you won't get to do very much, if anything, outside of the solo game.

ZephronSolinari

noaani wrote: »

ZephronRedblade wrote: »

Did you read the original post before the edit?

I did. It still didn't actually say what the point you wanted to make was, not why you consider each of those things to be negative.

Honestly, I'm still not sure why.

They were negative where there were Online RPGs with role play servers. At one time this was discussed but Intrepid decided to leave roleplay servers out of the box. I was just curious as to whether they still apply to non-rp servers.

Noaani

ZephronSolinari wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

ZephronRedblade wrote: »

Did you read the original post before the edit?

I did. It still didn't actually say what the point you wanted to make was, not why you consider each of those things to be negative.

Honestly, I'm still not sure why.

They were negative where there were Online RPGs with role play servers. At one time this was discussed but Intrepid decided to leave roleplay servers out of the box. I was just curious as to whether they still apply to non-rp servers.

I've still never seen an MMO that has considered these things an issue - including MMO's with RP servers. A handful of players may have taken issue with these things, but that is about it. It was never bought up at all while I played DDO (years ago, to be fair), and I was as active on those forums while I played it as I am here.

Note that the OP of the thread right now makes no mention at all of RP servers, nor that you think these things are an issue. All it is doing is listing these things. Even the original OP didn't mention RP servers before you edited to (for some reason) contain less information.

If the things you were complaining about were self evident as issues (such as third party gold sellers), then your OP as it is now would at least make sense. As it is right now though, you are simply listing a few things that 99% of players would consider standard, normal things to be able to do in an MMO that no one should have any reason to have an issue with - and then only after question you do we find that you have an issue with them. That is information that should be in the OP - you should be saying that you have an issue with these things, *why* you have an issue with them, *why* you think this issue is so great that Intrepid should address it, and what you think should be done.

Instead, you just list a few things without any context.

AntVictus

ZephronRedblade wrote: »

1) Muling - using an alt to drop gold/gear/items in a safe location (namely your house/apartment or empty area) and logging in with your main to pick up 'said item to empower that character. Since there are no "dungeon masters" this would be more easily accomplished...is it not.

2) Twinking - dropping Black Scale Imperator with one character to be picked up by a brand new character /you like better/, or am I mistaken?

3) Metagaming - using out-of-character knowledge as a weapon to destroy someone in-character. Since there are no dedicated roleplay servers this would be a tad more difficult. Here on AoC, they will just either kill you in town, in the wilderness, or both. One vs one, group vs one, or group vs group.

4) Powergaming - all of the above into one Main.

1. there's probably something in game to deal with that.
2. uhh depends on if things are soulbound or not.
3. ...this is an rp thing and isn't something that a dev or a game master should even be bothering with. This is a player to player issue, not a dev issue.
4. powergaming isn't all of those, in fact it's basically just a bigger form of meta gaming. So once again see point 3.
Don't worry so much about it, and also don't try to get the devs or a gm to deal with a problem in an rp situation...that's actually dumb, unless of course it's actual issue with the player and not the character....but even then it's still pretty dumb to involve them.

Tacualeon

Seems the type of question a single player player would make. No offense.

When competing, humans will make everything efficient, even in detriment of fun. Devs can guide players towards desired attitudes, but ultimately, they will make their own choices.

Nagash

if the devs make it possible then it's up to people if they wish to multibox

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