My biggest concern.

Hi there,

So after watching some footage (the raw gameplay vid and the vid from TheLazyPeon) I come to the conclusion that the thing that bothers me most is without a doubt the animations (character and spell/skill animation mostly) and the character models.

The character animation looks very basic, and the character models look extremely like basic mobile-phone ad character models.

To be clear, I am not here to hate on the game, I am very hyped and from what I have heard from the Asmongold interview I got hyped even more and really hope this game succeeds, it's just that the two things I stated above are by far my main concerns.

Any thoughts?

Thank you and I hope this input was helpful in any way.

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dawntracker

All i can say is that you should not pay too much attention too it. They are still in a Pre alpa stage (preparing apha 1 at the moment for later this year) so everything you see (or saw in that video) is subject to change and not at all polished. Once they get in later stages of development (most likely around beta time) you will start to see the game is it will look like during launch.

As for now, please don't let the looks affect your judgement since it will change a lot.

Peon501

Same, I get that a bit bitter taste too. I think you are talking about the asian anime ninja attacks and various fast trails art style and weird spell casting spins.
Anims should be a bit toned down without asian flavors.
More to the ground, with human-like strength, hitting hard, but not over the top.
If you guys want to make it above human strength then make it demonic like(with the movement of your hand or weapon ghostly)

Dantium

dawntracker wrote: »

All i can say is that you should not pay too much attention too it. They are still in a Pre alpa stage (preparing apha 1 at the moment for later this year) so everything you see (or saw in that video) is subject to change and not at all polished. Once they get in later stages of development (most likely around beta time) you will start to see the game is it will look like during launch.

Pretty much this, but it's best to get worries out there! I'm sure these things will improve as time goes on.

Peon501

dawntracker wrote: »

All i can say is that you should not pay too much attention too it. They are still in a Pre alpa stage (preparing apha 1 at the moment for later this year) so everything you see (or saw in that video) is subject to change and not at all polished. Once they get in later stages of development (most likely around beta time) you will start to see the game is it will look like during launch.

As for now, please don't let the looks affect your judgement since it will change a lot.

Never trust devs. Always take as it is.

It's quite simple. Not everyone likes edgy art flavors. Most don't.
We can disagree, but the fact is the fact.

Noaani

Peon501 wrote: »

We can disagree, but the fact is the fact.

Fact is fact, and the fact is the developers have been iterating on character animations for several years now, with small improvements each time.

Fact is, there is no reason to assume they have finished this process.

Peon501

noaani wrote: »

Peon501 wrote: »

We can disagree, but the fact is the fact.

Fact is fact, and the fact is the developers have been iterating on character animations for several years now, with small improvements each time.

Fact is, there is no reason to assume they have finished this process.

I get that. The guy before you told that.
It is just a bit concerning and we should ask questions because Ashes of Creation funder played a lot of Asian art style-based games.

thorgar runemaster

Just wait for alpha we will see.

countbrownbear

The only thing I can say at the moment it is in pre alpha if you Google world of Warcraft pre alpha and dig up old footage of that compared to was it was like of release they are two completely different looking games. Everything is placeholder and subject to change. I think once we get to beta we can get a more accurate image of what the game will be like in launch. That is about a year or so away minimum.

Noaani

Peon501 wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

Peon501 wrote: »

We can disagree, but the fact is the fact.

Fact is fact, and the fact is the developers have been iterating on character animations for several years now, with small improvements each time.

Fact is, there is no reason to assume they have finished this process.

I get that. The guy before you told that.
It is just a bit concerning and we should ask questions because Ashes of Creation funder played a lot of Asian art style-based games.

Almost all of the games art leads are from SoE/Daybreak. This includes the character lead and the animation lead.

Look at their previous work to see what to expect in this regard in Ashes.

Peon501

noaani wrote: »

Peon501 wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

Peon501 wrote: »

We can disagree, but the fact is the fact.

Fact is fact, and the fact is the developers have been iterating on character animations for several years now, with small improvements each time.

Fact is, there is no reason to assume they have finished this process.

I get that. The guy before you told that.
It is just a bit concerning and we should ask questions because Ashes of Creation funder played a lot of Asian art style-based games.

Almost all of the games art leads are from SoE/Daybreak. This includes the character lead and the animation lead.

Look at their previous work to see what to expect in this regard in Ashes.

Can you link me to a couple of their games?

darthaden

A link to the wiki for daybreak games. There's a list of games the company made on there. No idea which games the Intrepid staff worked on though, I'm assuming not everyone worked on every game
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_Game_Company

darthaden

Ultimately at this point though if you haven't backed the game yet theres zero reason to atm. As of now there's no more Alpha 1 keys being sold so backing the game now vs backing the game 6 months from now won't get you anything unless you really want a specific limited cosmetic. If you have doubts about the game I'd suggest just waiting until the video NDA is dropped during alpha 1 so you can see more progress.

Peon501

darthaden wrote: »

A link to the wiki for daybreak games. There's a list of games the company made on there. No idea which games the Intrepid staff worked on though, I'm assuming not everyone worked on every game
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_Game_Company

Ah. I see. EverQuest. I only played a little bit of EverQuest.
Can't see any cool MMO's. I only see a lot of games targeting the Asian market.

Aardvark

Peon501 wrote: »

darthaden wrote: »

A link to the wiki for daybreak games. There's a list of games the company made on there. No idea which games the Intrepid staff worked on though, I'm assuming not everyone worked on every game
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_Game_Company

Ah. I see. EverQuest. I only played a little bit of EverQuest.
Can't see any cool MMO's. I only see a lot of games targeting the Asian market.

I have played lots and lots of MMOs but the only one on that list I have played is DDO

Genaro

Agreed. Even though the game still in early alphas, I would like to see improved character models, more fluidity in movements, more polish and smoother animations. And maybe, just maybe, a little bit less light effects on skills, so the game doesn't have too much visual pollution (like it was in AoC: Apocalypse, imo).

Even if the game can't pull all the features it has to offer in paper, if you have a movement and combat system that feels good to play, players will stick to it until the game is fully release in all fundamental aspects.

HazardNumberSeven

I have to agree, I'd much rather a classical fantasy sort of style that seems to match the theme of the game better... The asian-style animations and art, I am very much hoping, are just place-holder until we get our cool western audience stuff.

Darqwatch

Peon501 wrote: »

Same, I get that a bit bitter taste too. I think you are talking about the asian anime ninja attacks and various fast trails art style and weird spell casting spins.
Anims should be a bit toned down without asian flavors.
More to the ground, with human-like strength, hitting hard, but not over the top.
If you guys want to make it above human strength then make it demonic like(with the movement of your hand or weapon ghostly)

not talking about the "asian anime ninja attacks..." at all, just that they animation look clunky, slow and very basic.

Noaani

Peon501 wrote: »

Can't see any cool MMO's. I only see a lot of games targeting the Asian market.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm?

EQ is the game WoW was modeled on.
EQ2 was WoW's main competition for it's first 4 years.
SWG was the first MMORPG to gain mainstream notice.
Planetside was the first MMOFPS.
H1Z1 was the Battle Royale game before PUBG and Fortnite.

None of SoE's titles have ever been aimed at an Asian market. Some of them have attempted spin offs in that direction, but every SoE game ever developed was developed for the western market.

Michael

Look at their Pre-Alpha In-Game footage, then compare it to their just released 4K game footage. There is a massive difference. Welcome to the world of game development. Not everything is going to be complete, and there will be many placeholders. Look at the difference 3 years has made on the game. Now you need to understand that this game will not launch for another 2+ years. It will only get better.

WBsteve

I'm sure when the game is out the combat will look nothing like it does now

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