Why Is The Game So Expensive And Totally Overpriced

Ne0 wrote: »

What i am saying and what people are failing to understand is that paying $30 AUD for a monthly subscription is too much, i realise you do not have to purchase the alpha packages but it does not change the fact that they are there. People seem to not be understanding when i say that the monthly cost of the game is my main concern as the game hasn't even been released yet and they are already introducing high prices.

Dude, you don't pay a sub during testing.

If the sub is too much for you when the game launches, then i don't really know what to say. It's an industry standard.

Ne0 wrote: »

Um no $21 is not cheaper than any other MMO that you can think of, there are a lot of MMO's that are worth a lot less than $21 as i stated in my first comment

Um. You listed WoW, GW2 and Albion Online.

Albion online cost $30 USD box-price, then moved to a F2P model later on. It also offered alpha, beta and early-access packages for hundreds of dollars, and still offers premium at $10 a month. So, looks like you're wrong there, unless your point was that some games are F2P so ... All games should be F2P?

WoW has box prices per game and expansion about every 2 years of $60-$90 USD, on top of a $15 USD subscription, so ... Wrong.

GW2 also had a cost but is now F2P, so either way... Wrong. On top of that the current expansion costs $30, $60 and $80 depending on package... So, wrong again.

I've seen your kind before. You come to MMORPG forums and do this. You have no intention of ever playing the game, you just want to see it fail and your way of doing that is called FUD. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

Whenever a project grows in success and attention FUD appears on the forums from bad faith actors.

Everyone should do the right thing and report these sort of threads.

winner909098

Ne0 wrote: »

What i am saying and what people are failing to understand is that paying $30 AUD for a monthly subscription is too much, i realise you do not have to purchase the alpha packages but it does not change the fact that they are there. People seem to not be understanding when i say that the monthly cost of the game is my main concern as the game hasn't even been released yet and they are already introducing high prices.

as I said, they aren't going to cater the price for everyone. They dont have to and I doubt they will, because then they lose money that they would use to help keep all of the servers afloat, and pay their workers.

Ne0 wrote: »

What i am saying and what people are failing to understand is that paying $30 AUD for a monthly subscription is too much, i realise you do not have to purchase the alpha packages but it does not change the fact that they are there. People seem to not be understanding when i say that the monthly cost of the game is my main concern as the game hasn't even been released yet and they are already introducing high prices.

$21 AUD*

It's cheaper than what you paid to play WoW.

It is not an industry standard it is a lot more expensive than the industry standard as i have stated many many times! I also do not understand why the game was $500 for people who wanted a life time subscription and i do not care about the additional in game bonuses.

Ne0 wrote: »

It is not an industry standard it is a lot more expensive than the industry standard as i have stated many many times! I also do not understand why the game was $500 for people who wanted a life time subscription and i do not care about the additional in game bonuses.

If the entire concept of Kickstarter rewards for early backing is foreign to you I don't think you will understand what people are trying to tell you.

Ne0 wrote: »

It is not an industry standard it is a lot more expensive than the industry standard as i have stated many many times! I also do not understand why the game was $500 for people who wanted a life time subscription and i do not care about the additional in game bonuses.

It is indeed industry standard, and it is cheaper than other games you've listed.

I know you've stated it many times, but the things you're stating are incorrect, so people will continue to correct you.

If a game i list is now F2P that means it is F2P so i am not wrong there and i dont understand what you mean.

winner909098

Ne0 wrote: »

It is not an industry standard it is a lot more expensive than the industry standard as i have stated many many times! I also do not understand why the game was $500 for people who wanted a life time subscription and i do not care about the additional in game bonuses.

it is an industry standard for games that aren't horrible. as I said earlier, they need money for many things, including advertising and adding more stuff.

And i do have the intention of playing if the game was less expensive i am a big MMO RPG player and when you say "report this thread" is pretty funny since you clearly don't want constructive criticism.

Ne0 wrote: »

If a game i list is now F2P that means it is F2P so i am not wrong there and i dont understand what you mean.

Let me ask you this then. How much would you be comfortable paying monthly for a sub based MMORPG?

EmpyreanIke

Bro the AUD does not have as much purchasing power as the USD and all games cost more in Australia. Some of the larger publishers or producers can afford to charge a flat rate for AUD, if you are paying flat rate AUD below the exchange rate the company is essentially subsidizing you to play lol.

Because they don't want lifetime subs to be cheap? its not something that many people get, and if there were no cosmetics or other things in people would complain about that instead...

Ne0 wrote: »

If a game i list is now F2P that means it is F2P so i am not wrong there and i dont understand what you mean.

Because it wasn't F2P.

This game isn't out yet. It costs $15 to sub, which is cheap and has a $0 box cost.

Simple finances. Let's use WoW as an example. If you want to start playing WoW today, you need to pay the exact same cost in sub ($15 a month), on top of a $50 box cost just to try the game beyond level 20 (it doesn't start until end-game)...

Compare that to a game that has spent 0 time with a box cost because it isn't out yet, and still only costs $15 to sub. You could sub for a month for $15, experience the game fully, and decide you love it or hate it ...

One situation has a minimum cost of $15
The other situation has a minimum cost of $65

Which number is greater?
65 or 15?

winner909098

Ne0 wrote: »

If a game i list is now F2P that means it is F2P so i am not wrong there and i dont understand what you mean.

F2P generally has developers make the game pay to win, as they need some way to make money.

Amel

Dude, you're just plain lying, 15$ us is 21$ aud. what are you on about 30$ a month?

Not 15-30 i am talking in AUD since that is where i am from, and all of this doesnt change the fact that the devs were asking for 500 dollars at one point in time.

Noaani

$15US a month has been the standard for a subscription MMORPG for around 2 decades now, but most of those games have both a box fee and a DLC cost - neither of which Ashes will have.

If you live in a country where the conversion rate makes it more expensive, complain to your elected official about the exchange rate, and have them do something to improve your countries economy. Or alternatively, play an MMO made in your country - I'm not sure if Australia has one, though I know New Zealand does.

Currently it is a conversion of 15 to 21 but the average is 30 and i guarantee it will rise again soon as it always has.

Noaani

Ne0 wrote: »

Not 15-30 i am talking in AUD since that is where i am from, and all of this doesnt change the fact that the devs were asking for 500 dollars at one point in time.

They were never asking $500 for access to the game, they were asking for support.

And to be fair, the top tier supporter pack cost $10,000, not $500.