What is the one lesson you wish the Devs of AoC would learn from the MMO you currently play?

Got another question for y'all: if there was one system/thing that the Devs of AoC would implement in the upcoming game or one lesson you wished that the Devs of Ashes would learn from the MMO you currently play or last played, what would it be?

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Cold 0ne FTB

Lafi wrote: »

I pray that they don't listen to
1) casual players with little exposure
2) forum crying
3) streamer bias
In terms of balance or game direction.
I dont want to see balance changes that, at the level of a relevant player, is so unwarranted, simply to keep people quiet.
RIP GW2.

I have seen that happen to a few games but Steven doesnt seem like the type that would cave very easily. He has openly said that this game is his version of what the perfect MMO would be and that it might not be for everybody.

U5urPator

Lafi wrote: »

I pray that they don't listen to
1) casual players with little exposure
2) forum crying
3) streamer bias
In terms of balance or game direction.
I dont want to see balance changes that, at the level of a relevant player, is so unwarranted, simply to keep people quiet.
RIP GW2.

I realise that sounds super elitist.
Im not going to be good at this game. At all. But i still hope they communicate with players that have a deep understanding of the game rather than the casual, here for some light fun after work, sort of player.

Alliances soon. No need to be salty about imbalance anymore.

Valento92

I agree with @Hansrutger on RNG, be very very careful with that, I'm confident that the game director knows how it goes. Not even trying to force something down the devs' throats, it's true, abuse RNG and people will hate the game. That being said, RNG is part of RPGs so as long as you place it carefully in some game domains it shouldn't be seen as that horrible.

I'd add the following:

Fair, reusable, simple and balanced cosmetic skin system. I like to use GW2 as an example because it's damn simple to unlock and apply skins, and also avoid cluttering your bag/bank from items whose sole purpose in the long term is just skins. Also, cosmetics are endgame for a huge crowd for a reason; people like to belittle how useless these things are but they're valued that much for a reason.
Seeing how this game is being built actually reassures me a lot, so I'd like to simply point out that progression is a big part in any MMO. We saw how GW2 failed hard with horizontal progression, but we can also see how massive vertical progression can be time-consuming and actually tiring. Use FFXIV as a good example on how to bridge vertical progression in a seamless way, use GW2 as a good example on how to offer some interesting horizontal progression.
Explain your game. I've tried some game's alpha as of late and it was awful. Use flashing pop-ups about how something goes. At least for the first character. The game doesn't have to go in depth as the sense of discovery is interesting but failing to produce a minimum understanding of the game is the best way to scare people away. New Player Experience is a thing, better take care of it from the beginning.
If I marry someone PLEASE MAKE THEIR NAME PINK TO ME, ALSO ADD A SMALL GOLDEN RING NEXT TO THEIR NAME. PLEASE IT'S JUST UI. Thank you.

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Style

That's hard to say. Damn. I guess making it too grindy to make it too hard to see any progress (see SRO) will be a no.

Making stagnant items (wow legion legendary) where only the number increases will also be boring and I agree with the dailies. I never did them and don't consider them content tbh.

Songcaller

Daily Quests. Never add Daily Quests.

Samson1

I guess one of the biggest things for me is that I would like the game to be challenging from level 1... I want to be forced to manage my health and mana and to be able to see that my health and mana bars get low often. I just want to feel the challenge from the get go and not be spoon fed.

HazardNumberSeven

I don't mind repeatable quests like .. a building is being built in town, and some guy is like "bring me wood!" and as long as he needs more wood he still offers the quest and rewards.

But I have to agree, dailies are a big no-no for me. They are the gateway drug to timegated content. A daily starts off with good intentions. YAY! You get to do a rewarding quest, every day! ... And it turns into, you HAVE to do the rewarding quest every day!! If you miss out you can never go back! You missed it!

Timegated content in that way is awful. It's one of the worst things about modern WoW. It turns an acceptable grindfest where I could just pull an all nighter and get heaps of rep grinding mobs, into an unacceptable grindfest where I just have to log in every day to do some quests because if I don't I am permanently behind in content. That's a chore. When a game becomes a chore, the developers have failed big time. The stockholders however have won.

akabear

Semantics of how quests are written.

New World got some harsh criticism for some of their proposed quests. They were quite regular quests just not described in line with current expectations.
Rather than the apparent meaningless; kill 20 soldiers for clan 200 pts..
Perhaps; your clan needs space to expand, clear X area of soldiers to futher the campaign.. (20 soliders is sufficient and equals 200 pts)

Not saying what I have written as the solution but perhaps how the same quest can be presented in a different way and generate a sense of need or purpose

Also Dragon Age got criticism for placing quests parts at distance for no other reason than to increase player play time..

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Birdie

I want Open world PvP, Sieges and Raids and this game has them all.
I'm good.

Campfire_Goth

That the world is as just as important of a character than any named individual in the lore.
The journey should be just as fun as the destination, reaching endgame should be a reward not just a goal.
A deep character customization tool is highly sought after by casual and hardcore role players alike.
Make every level feel meaningful. Few things worse in an RPG than leveling up but not getting stronger.
Immersion can be just as important to the health and quality of an MMO as gameplay or combat.
Don't be afraid to play your hand close to your chest. Too many developers show too much before launch.

Tehonatake

Hansrutger wrote: »

RNG is not a system, it's not a feature, neither does it realistically exist. Do not put RNG layers on top of each other, ever. It was never fun and it will never be fun. People who played retail WoW will understand what I mean.

To echo this post, do not put RNG mechanics in this game, it does not work, it is not fun.
Player choices, rick vs. reward and no RNG gear progression nor RNG crafting, proccessing, gathering"."

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