Early backer feedback - non-consensual griefing and "caravan PVP" is a hard NO for me

Just feedback from someone who backed you early. I never signed up for non-consensual PvP griefing. I never signed up for "caravan PvP". How on Earth could you be repeating these fundamental mistakes from earlier MMOs? The caravan PvP system in ArcheAge, for example, drove thousands of us away (or kept us away in the first place). And the various karma/corruption/etc. systems to somehow limit non-consensual open world griefing? It NEVER works. It is ALWAYS gamed by certain players. It RUINS the experience of PvE players.

No thanks. It's your game, you can do what you want, but I'm out. And you are setting yourself up to fail in the marketplace.

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Aardvark

He asked for player feed back stop telling people not to give honest feedback as requested by the devs

Genaro

It's kinda funny to see how these 'intense' PvE players think that they their opinion MUST be heard by any means. It's like going to a pizza place and scream at the waiter saying that you DO NOT accept that pepperoni comes in your pepperoni pizza.

I'm not the person that says "if you don't want it, leave". Most of the time I'll try to reason with someone and come to an agreement of what is tolerable and what is not, so everyone can enjoy part of the game in a way. But this type of extremists players that says "change it now because I don't like it" are very difficult to have reasonable a discussion. If a company listen and accept this kind of feedback, it can end up pretty bad, like New World for example, in which they change the design of the game from full loot open world PvP to heavily focused endgame PvE content, and by doing it they delayed one more year so they can fix the game with all these player's demands.

That being said, from what I understand, although there is no way to 'trully' escape from PvP (like declining a duel), that means if a player really wants to attack you he can (as long as the environment allow it), I can see the corruption/anti-griefing system working well. From the information that is stated right now, looks like that griefing is very punishable and don't lasts for long. Theoretically, it can work. Let's see if in the other Alphas/Betas there are enough people to really test how it goes in the practice.

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