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First off I've never multi boxed and never will. One account is enough for me. With that said while not impossible I think it would be pretty difficult to obtain multiple freehold if my understanding of the freehold system is correct. Having to split your loot between multiple accounts would make it difficult to come up with enough funds to buy a freehold on each one before they're all sold out

Undead Canuck

I have multi boxed. I have 2 computers, and used 2 keyboards and 2 mice. It was a pain in the ass fingers, and I really sucked at it. I could do it, but didn't see where it helped any. I was just slower with both characters.
If it was a PVP situation, I am pretty sure both would have died. Not to mention how much it costs each month.

GrapeSnake

I mean, you can’t defend your free holds if you have 4 of them. Eventually you will lose them in a siege, and someone else can put one down. This isn’t UO where the houses are permanent as long as you pay; they can be attacked after a siege.

Lazyactor

Ok guys realistically how many people are capable of doing something like this and actually do it? Is this a case of trying to limit the capability of what? 1% of the playerbase? So not only do you need multiple machines or know how to run multiple operating systems on one machine you also need multiple accounts and the funds to pay for every account. Ok I could do this if I wanted to. My partner would stab me in the eye but I could I think with some preparation run 5 extra accounts from my main account if I wanted to. How the hell am I supposed to control more than 1 at a time with any efficiency? I would have to buy or write my own scripts or bots. Ok so I am doing that so whats the chance a GM notices and I lose an account? What if I lose the majority or all the accounts? Even if I dont lose anything and it all goes perfectly in that regard what am I gaining by such a ludicrous setup? This strikes me as one of those phantom fears people have. How many per 1000 players would actually be capable of doing something like this? How many of them would realistically do it?

Undead Canuck

2 at one time was very painful to run. Without using scripts, I cannot see anyone running more than 2 well. At least you have 2 hands so can technically run 2 with practice.

Plateau

Undead Canuck

For me, I will probably be setting up my Freehold to have some crafting on it. And I would open it up to my guild. Therefore, everyone in my guild would have access to 2 Freeholds. How is that P2W?

phdmonster

Trying to stop multiboxing is an impossible task - you either let people with multiple machines have multiple accounts or you allow 1 account per IP which is bad for the business and is bad for the game itself. There are a lot of people who have multiple computers at their home and like to play games together.

There is literally no way to tell apart 1 person controling 3 accounts from 3 separate machines from 3 people each playing on their account all from the same house. Multiboxing effectively is actually not easy and more often than not is not really worth the hassle.

Scripting/botting is a completely different issue where you run a 3rd party software that controls your characters and does repetitive tasks with some set goal.

It always makes me giggle when i see a thread like this: "Well, this is bad. But I am just going to say it's bad and leave and not provide even an inkling of a solution"

Good on you mate

EDIT: Not directed at the OP, but some people in the comments.

Lazyactor

Leonerdo wrote: »

It sounds like a lot of people agree that it would be way too much work to build/maintain 2+ freeholds. But I think that is mostly an up-front one-time cost. Am I right about that?

Furthermore, I think we have yet to see how much value you can really get out of a freehold. Specifically, we don't know how much of the processing on a freehold is done passively. Theoretically there could be a lot of production done via set-and-forget, time-gate processes. If that is the case, then having multiple freeholds would allow for more production without taking much more work (in the long-term).

Do y'all think that's a possibility? And if it is, do you think it's acceptable because of the huge up-front investment required?

in this example I would vote no. Something like that should not be allowed. The game will be balanced with people working on 1 freehold per account. If it is determined you are gaming the limit the system put in place to prevent you should be penalized. A single human could for example produce 1000 iron ingots in twelve hour periods. Systems will be created by both the players via how much one will pay for iron ingots and the devs by how much can be gathered in a time period. If to many people start to be able to double or triple that output it trickles into all other systems. Things get balanced around un intended values and it all gets out of hand. If that is the case I say drop the ban hammer on people who do it.

Talents

I mean even if it is there isn't any way to stop people having multiple accounts really.

Undead Canuck

How can 1 human do multiple things at once. They have never said that they will have automated crafting (if so, do you have a citation?). I am pretty sure that you will have to be at the machine and make adjustments. How does that multiply your production?

Namil

Battling alternate accounts is a losing battle, trying to prevent players from having more than one is just going to result in a waste of resources and time. It doesn't matter if they limit the amount of AoC processes one computer can have open at any one point, plenty of people have laptops and spare desktops that they could fire up. People could use virtual machines and I bet even using Sandboxie could get around that implication.

People can also just swap between accounts and there's nothing proving that people aren't sharing computers to play the game so HWID isn't a good measure. Solving this 'Issue' is just a massive headache, try not to get too worked up about it because it'll happen no matter what.

Undead Canuck

How about when I open up my Freehold to my guild. Then my entire guild has access to (at least) 2 Freeholds. How is that P2W?

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