The problem with having “Tank” as a class name

Hello all, I believe this discussion may have come up before, but I really would like Steven and friends to reconsider the name “Tank”. Overall, they have done a good job at naming the other classes and subclasses, but they ruin the immersion of the game by using the class name “tank”. Tank was a code name given to military vehicles being created in 1915. It has been a slang term for classes and archetypes in many video games given to the role that is used to absorb/mitigate or “tank” damage. Having a class name feels very uncharacteristic compared to the other class names. It’s like naming your cat “Cat”. It’s cute and punny, but is that what they really want for their game? What class do you play? Oh, I play a tank! Yea, but like what class? TANK!! *insert meme of a tank with a face on it... drooling*

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Yuyukoyay

Well they will prob use the class names instead of archetype names in quests. The way they structured it is you aren't even an adventurer until 25 when you get your class. That's the kind of vibe I get from the class system in relation to the world.

Shoximity

@Yuyukoyay

You will likely choose 1 of the 8 Archetypes when you are creating your character. If “Tank” is one of them, forevermore that archetype will be referenced on every single wiki, site, YouTube video, etc. So, even if they avoid using it in game, Tank will be very much be referenced somewhere. I think it looks tacky and would be annoying to reference a particular archetype as “tank”. Wish they would consider changing it.

Yuyukoyay

I mean they may not. They may use terms we would to refer to part time jobs as people without a class. They may only use the archetypes to refer to things only we can see in our godly positions, but the people in the world refer to them as that guard. That mercenary. That hunter. That old lunatic playing the banjo.

Shoelid

I think having "Tank" as an archetype name is similar to having the Cleric archetype be named "Healer". It gets the job done and is perfectly descriptive, but doesn't inherently lend itself to roleplay immersion. It also seems a little out of place when compared to all the other names.

Personally, I would have named it something like Guardian. However, if Tank is what they want to stick to, then I have no doubt they'll do the work they need to in order to make work great.

Marcet

I agree!! A class should not be called TANK.

I vote for PROTECTOR.

Yuyukoyay

Can't it be an actual good name though like Knight or Phalanx. Not one you'd find in a korean mmo.

Beekeeper

Yuyukoyay wrote: »

Can't it be an actual good name though like Knight or Phalanx. Not one you'd find in a korean mmo.

Knight would be awesome, but that's already Tank/Fighter. Phalanx would sound good for a skill name, since that's a formation in battle.

daxiongmao87

Champion
Partisan
Chevalier
Brute
Defender
Protector
Bulwark
Liberator
Shield
Barbarian?

Yuyukoyay

It can also refer to the units that engage in phalanx formations. Champion, Noble, and Cavalier.

Beekeeper

I think Defender would make for the most uncomplicated change. It describes what it does without getting into meta jargon.

Yuyukoyay

Doesn't sound cool though. Like Tank rawr I'm gonn roll you over.

daxiongmao87

Juggernaut

Beeper

I vote we change the name of the Mage archetype to 'Howitzer.'

BaSkA_9x2

I also agree Tank is a bad name for the archetype, unless it has a cannon and is made of steel. I would prefer if it was Guardian, Warden, Protector or forgive me for I will sin: Warrior. It would be cool to make a poll about this imho!

DeJoke

Cripsus wrote: »

Yea, the problem is that tank is used at all to begin with. The definition of “tank”is a military vehicle. We only know the slang meaning of the word as gamers because it’s what we use to define a specific role. They should use warrior or some other Base class name. Tank shouldn’t even be on the list.

As an avid gamer. When I hear tank I don't think about the vehicle. I think about the meat shield taunter in a raid.

Tank wasn't even first used for the vehicle. It was used as a container. eg. A water tank. If I google tank now, all I get is TankJuice and I've never used them.

A tank is what it is. And when you're level 25 you won't be just a tank anymore. Heck, I wouldn't have worried if all the first tier classes were as follows:

healer
big two-hander weapon
dagger user
magi
bow and arrow man
musical man
tank
and well, I can't think of something for the summoner, as it is what it is, like the tank.

As you don't get your true name until you've chosen a sub/second class.

Wiplasher

How the actually heck is this still being discussed? How is it a forum post? I don't understand...

THE TITLE ISN'T EVEN ACCURATE

I have never once gotten a tank in an mmo confused with an armored vehicle. I have also never gotten a tank that is an armored vehicle confused with the damage soaking agro getting archetype. Find me one person that in conversation got the two confused and i'll change my opinion.

Tank is an archetype not a class. Yeah if it was a class I'd say come on we can come up with a cooler name. But it isn't a class so who cares? It is a generic term used to describe a group of classes.

Shoximity

wiplasher4 wrote: »

How the actually heck is this still being discussed? How is it a forum post? I don't understand...

THE TITLE ISN'T EVEN ACCURATE

I have never once gotten a tank in an mmo confused with an armored vehicle. I have also never gotten a tank that is an armored vehicle confused with the damage soaking agro getting archetype. Find me one person that in conversation got the two confused and i'll change my opinion.

Tank is an archetype not a class. Yeah if it was a class I'd say come on we can come up with a cooler name. But it isn't a class so who cares? It is a generic term used to describe a group of classes.

LOL. No one said they are confused. If you didn't pick up the tongue in cheek, sarcasm, and fact that "Tank" is a lame name to call anything as a formal class, archetype, or w/e... then you are missing the point.

Wiplasher

Cripsus wrote: »

wiplasher4 wrote: »

How the actually heck is this still being discussed? How is it a forum post? I don't understand...

THE TITLE ISN'T EVEN ACCURATE

I have never once gotten a tank in an mmo confused with an armored vehicle. I have also never gotten a tank that is an armored vehicle confused with the damage soaking agro getting archetype. Find me one person that in conversation got the two confused and i'll change my opinion.

Tank is an archetype not a class. Yeah if it was a class I'd say come on we can come up with a cooler name. But it isn't a class so who cares? It is a generic term used to describe a group of classes.

LOL. No one said they are confused. If you didn't pick up the tongue in cheek, sarcasm, and fact that "Tank" is a lame name to call anything as a formal class, archetype, or w/e... then you are missing the point.

Oh I think it is very boring. But its a generic term we have been using for over a decade in games. We would need to come up with a generic term that classes could fall under. Tank simply fits the best and no one gets confused.

If its not broken don't fix it I think works best here.

Jexz

I like Hank the tank or Murtle the Turtle more than
Bender the Defender or Hector the protector so I hope it stays or that we get a turtle archetype.

WMC51

I would probably go with defender instead

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