What do you all think the 8 man group meta will be?

We know that it will be holy trinity based but how do you think the specific breakdown will work? If you pick the other option, please share you thoughts below!

https://strawpoll.com/gac827ro8

Edit: Different Strawpoll link

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KnightPixie

8x Archwizard (Ker-Boom)! ;3

Leiloni

ThatBardGuy wrote: »

We know that it will be holy trinity based but how do you think the specific breakdown will work? If you pick the other option, please share you thoughts below!

https://strawpoll.com/gac827ro8

Edit: Different Strawpoll link

Did you forget the role of the Summoner? Jack of all trades, there to fill in gaps in the party where needed. Likely it will be 1 tank, 1 Cleric, 1 Bard, 1 Summoner, 4 DPS. They're trying to balance so that each of the 8 archetypes has a place in a party so I'm guessing that's the make up we'll end up seeing if they do their jobs.

Leiloni

Ulquiorra wrote: »

Think outside the box.

Tank and Cleric ARE replaceable by Fighter/Tank and Bard/Cleric, because it's their second role to begin with.
Bards can heal without cleric subclass; so, with the subclass, the heals should become reliable.
Less obvious option is fighter/cleric IF it works as life-steal, and Bard/bard IF it provides the best buffs. But it shouldn't work this way because this would easily become the META.

The subclass doesn't change your role at all. Your role is dictated by your primary class and there is no such thing as a "second role". So a secondary class tank might at best give you some extra self-defense buffs to make you a harder to kill DPS but you'd still be a dps. Bards don't have enough healing to support a group - it's been noted as being "much, much less" than Cleric and only proximity-based HoTs, debuffs on an enemy that heal anyone who attacks it for a small amount, etc. so low, supportive group healing to help the Cleric. They've said only Cleric has enough healing to support a team and only Cleric can even directly target heal people as well.

The secondary classes will certainly change how you play, but they're just going to give your role a different flavor, not change your role.

SamuraiWindu

This may sound trite, but the meta will most assuredly be one Bard, one Cleric, one Fighter, one Mage, one Ranger, one Rogue, one Summoner, and one Tank. The game is designed to make every archetype relevant. Why are people so intent on imposing a meta before the game is finished? A more interesting question will be: What augments do you prefer for the archetype you play?

Bolorny

8 Summoner/Summoner.
No Doubt.

Damokles

Bolorny wrote: »

8 Summoner/Summoner.
No Doubt.

Now I really want to see a 8 man Bard group.

2x Bard/Tank (Sirens)
2x Bard/Fighter (Tellsword)
1x Bard/Rogue|Ranger (Trickster|Songwarden)
1x Bard/Mage (Magician)
2x Bard/Cleric (Soulweaver)

Taraniss

8 rogues hiding and waiting for a single player to walk by. One person in discord counting down from 3 until they all pounce.

In all honesty I know in a perfect world the meta will be like @SamuraiWindu mentions. The fact of the matter is though it probably won't be. There will be combos figured out and groupings tinkered with that will rise to the top. Then there will be patches and changes like every single MMO. Then something else will rise to the top. Whether it is just an overall annoying comp or an un-killable comp. In a game like this there will never be a "perfect" balance. Without the details of the classes and archetypes we can only guess what the meta will be. But I would bet almost anything it won't be that perfect lineup of bard, mage, tank, summoner, fighter, cleric, ranger, and rogue. If I had to bet on that vs something else...I am taking something else. Which is not a bad thing. If 75% of the classes/combinations of classes can "work and be relevant" then I would consider it a HUGE success. 100% perfect balance in an MMO of this scale is pretty much impossible imo.

Orlando2

SamuraiWindu wrote: »

This may sound trite, but the meta will most assuredly be one Bard, one Cleric, one Fighter, one Mage, one Ranger, one Rogue, one Summoner, and one Tank. The game is designed to make every archetype relevant. Why are people so intent on imposing a meta before the game is finished? A more interesting question will be: What augments do you prefer for the archetype you play?

You can have all archetypes relevant without forcing the players to play a specific meta.
Maybe some people will want to make an archer group with tank/supports.
Limiting the viability in group composition is a bad thing imo.

Ziu

LFG 8-man Archmage Only group, let’s blow everything up while jumping around to avoid damage

Frosty_Tips

PvP meta: 8 female dwarves with all body sliders moved to the smallest.

As a skinny 3 foot tall dwarf your hitbox will be the smallest and so at that point you no longer have to worry about anyone who is dumb enough to use Action Combat. You just have to worry about the AOE and Tab Targetting.

Xenotor

I Belive Intrepid said that the perfect group is 1 of each archtype.

So i could see 1 Tank, 1 DPS/Tank (offtank) ,1 Cleric, 1 Bard ,rest DPS.

That being said it will always depend on the situation.

Kaelang

My guess for 8 man PvP is 2 Tank, 2 Cleric, 3 DPS, 1 Bard OR 2 Tank, 1 Cleric, 1 Bard, 4 DPS.

Sussurro

So long as you have one of each of the holy trinity, I think the group of eight is flexible enough to allow a hodgepodge of builds in the remaining slots. It would definitely support what they'd want to achieve in terms of class design.

Fenixz

Summoner can fit any role, so I guess 8 Summoners. What a strange thread.

daxiongmao87

8 charlatans

Hansrutger

8 stealthy rogues killing other dungeon groups off and stealing the mob kills.

On a serious note I think safe meta will be 2-4-2, with same format OP used in the poll, but efficient meta will be 1-5-2 and that's with 1 bard of those 2 support healers.

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