Why Gathering/Refining/Crafting Should Be High Focus

After seeing the alpha footage it appears the gathering/refining/crafting will be generic and essentially just have you press a button and wait, I think this is a bad system.

Despite what others have said, it is actually impossible to stop multi-boxing unless you have to type in your irl I.D when creating an account, and even then there are those who will find a way to abuse this. The reason people multi-box is to gain an economic advantage, I know that mouse inputs/ghost mousing will be tracked and banned if abused, along with scripts/etc... However if the main ways to gain resources has little to no APM or doesn't require you to focus on an interface to gain said resources (what it looks like to me in the video), it will not be difficult to manually do this with muti-boxing on several clients, especially if there are "veins" of resources presumable holding a high amount of that resources in an area. (Especially with the family teleport system, you would just walk around till you find a vein, then teleport 5 of your multi-boxed chars to the vein) Judging from the video It would seem you could cut a log, walk around 5-10 seconds and find another tree to cut, this will not be difficult to do on multiple clients (especially with add-ons, which again, you can't actually stop if someone knows what they're doing), the best way to stop multi-boxing abuse, is to make it as difficult as possible for someone who would multi-box for economic gain. I suggest having a UI that requires you to interact with it that either requires high focus or a level of apm that would be very difficult to pull of on two clients by a single person.

Something like for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYArGhO3_E

Pressing a button and waiting a few seconds to gain resources, refine, or craft... is the "participation trophy" of gathering, refining, and crafting.

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Hystorix

No just no thank you ... I don’t like tedious things ... albeit I do like mmos that have fishing where there is a bobber and you click it etc ... but a mini game out of chopping a tree ... I am not sure about ... but sometimes I get surprised

Kesarakk

Beekeeper wrote: »

I totally get that mindset, just putting on music and doing stuff that by itself isn't all that interesting. I do it all the time for punching trees in minecraft. I zen out and take down half a forest.

But, at the same time, something like "E" just feels so damn unsatisfying. The whole aligning yourself for the prompt to show up, like a car doing parallel parking, feels like bad design. Or doing a back-and-forth dance because you're too far away, now you're too close, now you're too far again, now it works, nope was turned too far left, it's just too much. Some real deep frustrations coming up here, lol.

I would never want to take away the simplicity, the ability to just zone out and go for gathering, I just think other games did it better.

That part I do agree with you on. I would prefer something like Ark where you have to have the tool equipped in your hand to gather. Maybe a small change like that would turn more people onto the gathering process. You can't accidentally gather a material if you don't have that tool equipped and it adds a small element of risk v.s. reward because you no longer have your main weapon in your hand in case someone jumps you.

Varkun

Well here is something to consider while you are out gathering in the wilds there is the risk that you will be killed for the resources you are gathering. I know personally I would not like to be concentrating on some gathering process while greedy eyes are waiting for just the right time to jump me and steal my stuff. Keep it simple so I can be aware of what is going on around me.

Processing/crafting will lend themselves to some sort of mini game/process that can be concentrated on as both of these will take place in freeholds and or towns/cities. Freeholds I don't think you can be attacked thus are safe and towns/cities there will be guards other players who would be quite the deterrent to someone attacking you.

IS said several months ago in a live stream that gathering was going to be kept simple as they realised that many people use or view gathering as more of a relaxing time to not fully concentrate.

Kneczhevo

I am in full support to the crafting community, I get it. But, for people requesting mini games for simple tasks, like gathering, I have to decline.

Most gatherers (hopefully) will not be crafters. Most gatherers are just wanting to make a quick easy buck while adventuring, something to supplement their income. Add a mini game, you will alienate those peeps who don't want to play that style, and less gatherables will be collected.

Keep your mini games in your pants. 😜

Hurf Derfman

Farming ends up being a farming sim minigame that's cool. Having to also play a mini game to loot crops less so. (Would be cool to get seeds from wild herbs to plant in personal plots tbqh)

I can't help but wonder if animal husbandry will be just a mount breeding system or will you be able to breed beasts of burden and livestock for consumption?
Cow = meat, milk, leather. Goats = milk meat. Sheep= wool, meat ect.

A minigame to catch a horse or a griffin would be fine. Breeding them eh... Not so much.

Gathering is basically Easter egg hunting. Don't need any meta games added to that. Especially in a pvp setting.

Enchanting will have a risk of destroying an item. Slap a wonky quick time event in the mix things would get toxic real fast.

I would rather be able to acquire better tools and crafting stations for enhanced effects over wondering if I didn't get the proc cause I didn't minigame hard enough.

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