Roll is part of the general game?

I mean i see some videos and I realized the characters rolls... is this means doesn't care your race or class you can roll with your character and is part of the game like in Dark Souls?

I just don't like it, but I want to know if this is going to be like that.

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Dreoh

Marcet wrote: »

Dreoh wrote: »

Marcet wrote: »

I recommend you reading better, I never said a lvl 1 could beat the last boss. I think you are getting emotional about this in the way you argue. Have a good day.

What lol?

One, I'm not getting emotional, you can't just say that because I'm criticizing your logic.
Two, you literally said a lvl 1 could beat bosses.

And I quote

Marcet wrote: »

I recommend you reading better, I never said a lvl 1 could beat the last boss. I think you are getting emotional about this in the way you argue. Have a good day.

Marcet wrote: »

I don't want skill based combat, people should be able to do stuff because of their gear and stats, not by skill, if not people will do bosses at lvl 1 and rush the game with no equipment. I want stat based combat.

Edit: The fallacy was Appeal to Extremes, and I haven't changed anything you've said, I've directly quoted you. You can't gaslight me when there's ready to find proof.

I said killing a boss, not killing the last boss, now brother, I have a life to attend, no time to argue with an internet dweller. Have a good day my friend.

By implying a lvl 1 could rush and kill a boss you're implying all bosses. Even if he rushed and killed a lvl 10 boss that's fine too. I could give the exact same argument that I did for Ragnaros and switch it to Hogger and it'd be the exact same.

Sholer

Waw.... I didn't expect my thread was going to live so long...

I neither like the idea in terms of "LORE" that classes like paladins, mages, necromancers, bards, etc can use an ability like ROLL, it's obviously an ability more for rogues for example.

Caeryl

Marcet wrote: »

Dreoh wrote: »

Marcet wrote: »

I dont want rolls like it's a Dark Souls, I dont want it.

Could you at least elaborate on your reasoning?

Would you be ok with it if it was on a cooldown or tied to a limited resource?

Hi, yes.

I don't want skill based combat, people should be able to do stuff because of their gear and stats, not by skill, if not people will do bosses at lvl 1 and rush the game with no equipment. I want stat based combat.

Its not that im bad at games, I play lots of darksouls and its one of my favourite games, combat is important for me, but I dont want skill based combat here. Maybe if one class (rogue) has it its okay, or maybe its limited like you said.

Its not the end of the world, but I prefer basic tab combat, click and don't move. That's my opinion.

Look dude, this anti-skill mindset is just not gonna get you anywhere in Ashes. It’s honestly a bit wild and nonsensical to hear someone unironically say skill shouldn’t be rewarded in a multiplayer game. Of course players should have advantages for being skilled, skill and build should both have equal impact on who wins fights.

Hurf Derfman

Sholer wrote: »

Waw.... I didn't expect my thread was going to live so long...

I neither like the idea in terms of "LORE" that classes like paladins, mages, necromancers, bards, etc can use an ability like ROLL, it's obviously an ability more for rogues for example.

I'm fine with everybody having and base line avoidance mechanic that's fundamentally the same across the board, provided the animations and lore match the class fantasies.

A fighter rolling in the mud, sure. I'd expect a rouge to be more acrobatic, like a jumping cartwheel or a back flip and a ranger to be in the middle.

A mage with a blink effect, a cleric levitates and elegantly floats to the side.

And so on.

What I saw Steven's tank do didn't hurt my feelings, but a ducking side step would make more sense for a guy in full plate.

Gw2 PVP could be like roly poly wars so I get why peeps don't want it.

I would prefer to have it but with classy logical aesthetics and extremely judicious use of I-frames based on class. With ways to alter it in the skill tree.

The more I-frames you get the less health and armor you'll have. I say less is more.

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