Weapon Archetypes?

What types of weapons can we expect to see in the game?

What type of weapon would you want to see implemented?

I personally really enjoy the spear archetype, but don't see it implemented well often. Usually it just ends up being a weaker version of swords.

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LyrGreen

I'm just really hyped about Wands i just loooove Wands and i really hope they are going to stay in final game. Can't wait to create a badass mage and have a house full of magical stuff xD Also Staves, although i don't like when staves are melee weapon, i think it's better if staves were used for big ranged aoe attacks like firestorm or blizzard. They could always introduce Quarterstaff for melee monks or something.

Leroher

lunarsky wrote: »

Triple wrote: »

I would like to see whips or even maybe slings.

and perhaps chains and handcuffs?

Is...is there something you would like to tell us brother Triple?

There's the cleric whip skill so far but I doubt they'll add actually whips but I can't rule it out completely since they went through the trouble of animating the cleric skill. If they take away the glow effect and tweak it a bit it could work.

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Damokles

There is only the Way of the Halberd. No other weapon will ever surpass it.

Great Brae

whips and flails would be the first things I would think of, they are not normally in mmo's unfortunately and this game would add into the list of them not being in.

Scimitars can be under the sword classification, and would fit the desert humans well.

Hammer's don't need there own classification, it can be mixed with maces, but if it is there own, it's needs 2-hand and one-hand additions.

Buckler's should be added under the sheild catagory.

I'm not sure if poles/bow staffs are mid-evil, but if there is mid-evil ones it should be added.

There is shammans but no totems or shamman like trinket symbols things?

GrandHarfang

Damokles wrote: »

There is only the Way of the Helbard. No other weapon will ever surpass it.

Not even the Halberd?

Noaani

I'd like to see whips make a comback to MMO's - the only MMO I know of that has had them is EQ2, and it did a very poor job of implementing them.

Various types of polearm would be good.

I'd also like to see several types of ranged weapons, rather than just bows and crossbows. Slings, daggers and javelins would all be good here.

To me though, I wouldn't want to see any weapon added to the game that doesn't have a mechanical reason for being there.

If polearms are not mechanically different from swords, hold off on them. If slings, throwing daggers and javelins are not mechanically different from a bow, hold off on them.

If all they are is different animations over top of a different model and with a different perk system/tree, then there is no real point in adding them. It would just be adding more paths to reach the same outcome.

On the other hand, if a javelin functions as a massive hit in ranged combat, but where a player can only carry 3 javelins on them and once thrown, they are gone, then that functions vastly different to a bow, and would be used in a different manner, by players filling a different role, and as such is really worth adding to the game. It would then be an item that perhaps tanks or healers would carry in their ranged slot to use in specific circumstances, rather than a class that is actually designed around ranged combat.

Maybe a healer could equip themselves with a polearm of their choice in their main hand, a buckler in their offhand (not that you hold bucklers, but what ever), and some javelins in their ranged slot.

Edit, something else I'd like to see - that sort of fits in here - is the ability for similarly geared players to gain an additional ability when next to each other.

Think like a legion, or a phalanx. If you are in a group of players that all have the same shield and spear, get yourself in to a formation. Force the enemy to have to take on that formation before they can take on the individual players.

Nikai

Couple of ones I'd like to see and obviously the more variety between each style of weapon the better, lots of oppurtunity to incorporate traditional styles of weaponry that behave differently mechanically.
Flails (think witch king of angmar)
Javelins, Charkrams, Slings, Throwing axes/kinves
Glaives (think illidan)
War scythes/Naginata/Spears Just general variety in the range of polearms
Fist weapons e.g, Emeici, Katar, Wind and Fire wheels
Honestly so many more that would be amazing in game and could be categorized then sub categorized in order to make it a more manageable system it could be similar to the class system in its hybrid capacity

Damokles

GrandHarfang wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

There is only the Way of the Helbard. No other weapon will ever surpass it.

Not even the Halberd?

You heard me right! ;D

But thank you for correcting me. I think I am simply too used to the german term for it "Hellebarde". ^^

KronKrian

I'd like to see proper flails. It would be an interesting implementation.

Im_Mei

Def a Tank Scythe for my Necromancer that gives me leech or some form of tanky life stealing ability, proc or passive

George_Black

Dual Wield being done properly.

Many of the later mmorpgs dont do justice to dual wield.

So make them way weaker than other options, lacking functions + flavour.

Others do wierd things like dual kunai, or Giants Only, or sword + straight shadow, or sword + boomerang blade.

I just want to play dual wield properly again, like L2, Tera, w0w, GW2.
Very dissapointed with ESO and AA on DW. As for bdo... it's not even a thing.

Nikai

Flails and sycthes could pretty much work mechanically the same as maces and 2 handed axes respectively, polish on animations would just be needed to make sure the attacks still looked real and impactful and both would be so fun visually.

Hurf Derfman

Good flails are non existent. Apparently they're harder to do than good cape physics.

Damokles

Nikai wrote: »

Flails and sycthes could pretty much work mechanically the same as maces and 2 handed axes respectively, polish on animations would just be needed to make sure the attacks still looked real and impactful and both would be so fun visually.

Scythes would not ever work in actual combat tbh. There were Warscythes used in medieval times, but they didnt look anything like a scythe (Imagine a scythe blade on a stick like a spearhead or mounted on the side of the stick)
Scythes only really work for penetration, because if you want to cut something, you would need your opponent to step INSIDE your reach and then pull the scythe towards you, or swing it with your whole body sideways. Both are very bad things to do in combat.

I know that that has nothing to do with your actual comment, but i get angry about all those people who want scythe weapons...

I would think that a scythe skin would make sense for staves or halberds tbh. (They wouldnt even need to ajust the animations)
But I would think that flails would be nice mace skins in my opinion.

Nikai

not a bad idea, i do get what you mean about scythes not making a lot of sense realistic combat wise so i could see them being made a variation of staffs for caster classes maybe, or yeah just halberd style of gameplay.

Honestly if flails were in the game and done well id build an entire character around using them and it would be as close to the Witch King of Angmar as possible

Noaani

Damokles wrote: »

i get angry about all those people who want scythe weapons...

As do I.

The other thing with a scythe is that the only way to get the blade on an appropriate angle to actually hit your target is to hold said blade a few centimeters off the ground - sabatons would be in massive danger if they were implemented in to the game as a melee weapon.

What I could see though, is a scythe implemented in to the game as a caster staff - something that isn't expected to be used in melee. This also means the developers wouldn't need to add in specific animations for this one weapon - and a scythe absolutely would need it's own animations to be used as a melee weapon.

I can see this satisfying the desires of most people that want one.

Volgaire

Grimoires and staffs are what I'm hoping to see more of.

insomnia

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